I have killed several with Monarch ( Academy store brand made by PPU ) 158 grain semi jacketed hollow point . All the deer shot were tight behind the shoulder into the crease or the into middle of the base of the neck from the back. Rifle was a bolt action Ruger m/77 in 357. All shots were under 75 yards. I enjoyed hunting with and plinking with that rifle/ammo combo. Then Academy stopped selling the ammo.
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357 lever gun hunting round
- Thread starter bsanders
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I’ve been reloading 357 mag for years to shoot in both revolvers and an 1894. It doesn’t matter if it’s a pistol or a rifle, rifling works the same in both. You’re particular rifle might have a bad bore, worn out rifling, or just poor rifling (remlin era Marlin) that can’t stabilize a standard (short) profile 125, doesn’t mean the bullet isn’t touching the rifling, because it is. Go shoot your rifle into something. water or gel or wet newspaper or whatever, retrieve the bullet and I guarantee you’ll see the imprints from the rifling in your barrel on the bullet. Like I said, a 125gr bullet is .357 in diameter. A 158gr is .357 in diameter, a 180gr is .357 in diameter, a 200gr is .357 in diameter. The bullet itself is longer, but diameter is the same.
Different 357 carbines come with different rates of twist in their barrels. Y'all could all be correct about the specific rifle you have or had.
No comment on ammo, because .44 mag exists. So why are you even.
No comment on ammo, because .44 mag exists. So why are you even.
Twist rate is absolutely a reason for accuracy issues. That doesn’t cover him saying it doesn’t touch the rifling.
What if the bearing surface of the projectile on those other than the flat point is too short for the barrel he had?
Because I want to
I want to hunt a deer with my 6 inch GP100 some day. So interested in real world results with ammunition.
I do have a **** ton of 158 grain 357 JSPs though. Can kill a deer with a 22............Do I recommend it? No. But it can be done.
I do have a **** ton of 158 grain 357 JSPs though. Can kill a deer with a 22............Do I recommend it? No. But it can be done.
Look into you gun manufacturers information and see if it takes +P rounds. If it does go with a heavier bullet ( 170 gr. ) and a shot to neck ( spine ) would drop him like a sac of wet clams. I believe the Buffalo Bore puts out similar output like the +P rounds. Hollow point of course. It doesn't have to be the expensive overpriced SD ammo. Just a good hollow point with a stiff charge behind it.
A Leigh solid copper in the lighter weights does extremely well on (GA) deer sized game as it’s zippy and will have excellent cavitation and penetrate. If I’m running a JHP in a carbine it will never be less than 158 grains for hunting. Remember these are designed for expansion in revolvers. A 125 jhp moving 2000 fps plus is not a good idea for ethical kills as it will grenade upon impact and retain minimal weight as it penetrates if at all. Better hit them in the neck with that one…
Edit to add my favorite is a 180 grain XTP
Edit to add my favorite is a 180 grain XTP
What da we need guns for??......
The 158s should do fine. Now technically you're supposed to have 500 ft. lbs. of energy at 100yds. That's a hot load for a 357. Assuming those regs are still in place. Well you're in AL. May be different. I've taken deer with 357 rifle and pistol. Just need to be ready for a quick follow up shot if needed. That's why I went to a 44mag. Aim careful, shoot once. Any more, you're messing up meat. Now a head or spine shot close up should do it. I much prefer a heart lung shot. It's hunting and things can and do go wrong
