All Cobb Co. Schools Closed.

[Lionheart]

Any of you Cobb County folks want to move your kids to a conservative county with the best schools in Georgia? I’m yo huckleberry. My house is for sale. 5 1/2 acres with creek. 7800 sq ft house with custom cypress barn/shop.
Get it before I list it.

 

[batoncolle]

Is it beyond the realm of possibility that the various teachers unions across the country would see this as the best oppurtunity they will ever get to flex some political muscle? Basically **** things up in an attempt to sway an election. Actual honest question, I've been following American politics for pretty much exactly five years now. There are things I understand and other things I can't comphrehend. I did read that in California, LA, the teachers union was saying it would not resume school unless the LA police were defunded. I found that amazing in a sort of not giving a **** about the kids sort of way.

Yes it is completely political, and I suspect there is also a drive to keep schools closed up until the election so they can try and justify closing them as polling places.

There is no scientific basis at all for closing schools or even requiring students to wear masks. See below the links to statements, and a few studies. And there is a study from every developed nation saying pretty much the same as below.

One study - "Seven days after the first cases were diagnosed, 1 tertiary case was detected in a symptomatic patient with from the chalet a positive endotracheal aspirate; all previous and concurrent nasopharyngeal specimens were negative. Additionally, 172 contacts were monitored. The fact that an infected child did not transmit the disease despite close interactions within schools suggests potential different transmission dynamics in children. https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciaa424/5819060

Another study in Iceland - "We have not found a single instance of a child infecting parents." https://www.nationalreview.com/corn...single-instance-of-a-child-infecting-parents/

From Switzerland - The health ministry's infectious diseases chief Daniel Koch said scientists had concluded that young children did not transmit the virus. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-52470838

From France - "School kids don’t appear to transmit the new coronavirus to peers or teachers, a French study found" https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...n-don-t-spread-coronavirus-french-study-shows

From Dr. Scott Atlas, senior fellow at Stanford University's Hoover Institution and former chief of neurology at Stanford University Medical Center - "I mean, it's totally contrary to the science and here's the science, I'm not sure how many times it has to be said but the risk to children from this disease for fatality is nearly zero. The risk to children for a significant illness is, quote, "far less from seasonal flu" according to JAMA Pediatrics" https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...s_i_feel_like_im_living_in_a_kafka_novel.html

 

[GeauxLSU]

I did read that in California, LA, the teachers union was saying it would not resume school unless the LA police were defunded. I found that amazing in a sort of not giving a **** about the kids sort of way.

The teacher's union was not founded nor does it exist to protect the interests of the kids.
Public unions should be illegal.

 

[Dundee]

You'd be amazed at how little some teachers do indeed not care about the kids. And your initial question? Fair dinkum, mate...this Seppo thinks you know more than you think.

I follow closely, I just don't have a wide range of understanding on historical behaviors. Namely what some of the more niche groups have done in the past.

 

[Lionheart]

Continues. I surely believe this is a liberals wet dream. Not only did they successfully indoctrinate a good chunk of the student body the last 20 yrs (and we are seeing results of that) but it now continues by getting the kiddies used to being confined to a computer AT HOME for a good portion of time.

So the short of it is They can continue to brainwash them from home

Stock tip. Pornhub.
Lots of bored, stuck at home teens and preteens with no adult supervision.
Wonder how they will spend their time online?

 

[MRM]

The online learning at the end of last year was intolerable. With two kids in different grades, a little one and one on the way. The conference meetings and crap lasted all day long.

I feel for the two income families and single parents.
We are slated to return to class, but, we have withdrawn them and are home schooling anyway.

I'm not playing their game. If it gets any worse, I'm relocating to a remote piece of property I own and I'll be done with the suburbs as well.

 

[41mag]

Any of you Cobb County folks want to move your kids to a conservative county with the best schools in Georgia? I’m yo huckleberry. My house is for sale. 5 1/2 acres with creek. 7800 sq ft house with custom cypress barn/shop.
Get it before I list it.

What the hell do you need 7800 square for ? Does that come with a staff to keep it clean ?
The barn could interest me. Where is it located ? Sounds nice.....too bad it isnt on 50 acres.

 

[GeauxLSU]

What the hell do you need 7800 square for ?

Guotta' have place to store the phat stax. Duh!
Sounds nice Lionheart. Post a listing. Somebody here who can afford used Glocks might be interested.

 

[reklawd]

Fair point, then. I read snark where there wasn't any...you'll forgive me if it was to be expected.

No need to apologize. My standard MO is snark is it was a fair assumption on your part.

My point was simply that I do not believe the numbers. That data point is one of many. I fully understand that it doesn't prove the point and I also fully understand that it will do nothing to dissuade you. I've just heard so many anecdotal stories of things that I simply don't trust the numbers. Look at southwest Florida. They were saying they had a 100% positive rate. People found that incredulous so I guess some folks looked into. Turned out it was more like 18%. Whether or not there's malfeasance behind any of it, I can't say (although I do think there is), but it further puts me in the camp of the skeptics.

I know I'm not going to dissuade you either, but that is simply not how data analysis, statistics, and probabilities work. The entire state of FL could have created false data but if when you aggregate it all together (country and worldwide) you can make your analysis with a general understanding of standard deviation and margin of error. And those go both ways - just like there could be a ton of false positives the data could also be skewed the other direction with the lack of proper testing and reporting. You go back to referencing "anecdotal stories ..." which points to the #1 reason most people are so bad a measuring risk.

So if you are going to be a skeptic, you need to assume a worldwide conspiracy involving 100's of thousands (if not millions) of people in on it. Which is what causes most great conspiracy theories to fail general sanity and feasibility check.

A good many people found themselves inadvertently home schooling their children...and my concern is that if we don't get the kids back in school, there's going to be a marked proficiency bubble that's going to ride up through our society over the next few years as these unfortunately under-educated children matriculate into society. And so we are clear, I'm not saying that parents won't make excellent teachers at home, some will...and, in fact, some may thrive. All I am saying is that not every parent has what it takes to make that happen.

Yeah, I really enjoy teaching people things, but those people are usually young adults and older with some basic logical and reasoning skills. I've always struggle teaching more complex topics to younger people (my kids ages) because the learning process can be frustrating. People who can teach primary-school-age children definitely have a skill set and/or natural ability to do so. If push comes to shove I'm sure I could eventually do it proficiently, but it would be a struggle for me and frankly unenjoyable.

 

[batoncolle]

I know I'm not going to dissuade you either, but that is simply not how data analysis, statistics, and probabilities work. The entire state of FL could have created false data but if when you aggregate it all together (country and worldwide) you can make your analysis with a general understanding of standard deviation and margin of error. And those go both ways - just like there could be a ton of false positives the data could also be skewed the other direction with the lack of proper testing and reporting. You go back to referencing "anecdotal stories ..." which points to the #1 reason most people are so bad a measuring risk.

So if you are going to be a skeptic, you need to assume a worldwide conspiracy involving 100's of thousands (if not millions) of people in on it. Which is what causes most great conspiracy theories to fail general sanity and feasibility check.

Wow! You go through the trouble of typing all that, and all it does is demonstrate what very little understanding of the situation you have.

The point about the FL 100% positive issue has nothing to do with data, statistics, etc. It has to do with making it easy to create a false narrative. When testing sites immediately send in test results, and they do, and many are showing 100% positives when the actual account is 8, 10, or 12%, it makes it look like "oh know positive cases are drastically rising" and thus creates a false media narrative. The results were corrected, but the damage was already done. No the rates of infection are not rising as drastically as is being reported.

But since you attempted to bring data into the discussion, let me help you out there as well. Below is an article from the leftist Atlantic. If you take the time to read it, you will learn that per the CDC's recommendation, and many states have adopted this recommendation including GA, positive antibody exposure cases (ie. you ain't sick and you won't infect someone else) are counted currently as positive infected cases. Now you may also choose to obfuscate and focus on the percentages like the Atlantic did which was purposeful and ignores a very simple common sense fact...

When you lump in positive antibody cases with actual positive cases you get INFLATED CASE NUMBERS, and it makes it look like more people are sick than they actually are. Thus not only distorting data but contributing yet again to the false media narrative.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/...-test-data-pennsylvania-georgia-texas/611935/

Now queue the cute comment because that's all that can be done...