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Anyone here take or teach martial arts?

Krav Maga is very effective if you are looking for self defense. It is not a sport and a good instructor will teach you exactly how to inflict effective and debilitating damage.

If you are looking for a sport, BJJ is awesome.
 
I totally agree.

I just wanted to differentiate that physical fitness alone will not cut it. And I agree you definitely need force on force training, but I prefer it with another skilled person who has some control. Not just random idiots.

As I have also trained at some schools that literally brought dudes in off the street and put me in a ring with them regularly. That’s just straight up MMA. I did gain lots of experience, it was not the right type of experience. Those untrained guys go all out every time, and it’s too easy to pick up little injuries that prevent you from training. So good controlled sparring/rolling, etc, with other skilled guys is my favorite.

As in rolling with a blue belt or above in jujitsu versus a really strong new white belt. Rolling with the blue belt or above is much better. They’re much more skilled but also have control. White belts with no control are more dangerous. Even though you can win, you can pick up injuries and not really learn much.

You need skill development. As you know from your jujitsu, to get to a blue or purple belt requires lots of time. If you go to hard and hurt each other with overly Agressive submission application because of lack of control, you won’t get there because you’ll lose too much time training.

I totally agree with you. The element of rolling in jujitsu is exceptional.

Sh$%, just learning to control your breathing while rolling hard takes time.

We agree. I just get excited about the topic. I really enjoyed my years in martial arts.
You make some good points that many will miss. Going full bore with another skilled fighter in your lane, although challenging can be much more predictable that going full tilt with a highly skilled and motivated bad guy or lessor "skilled" guy that is just a damn mean physical fighter. which to your point is much easier to take injury vs a blow. A point that I cannot overemphasize is one that one or more of the earlier posters made that is spot freaking on. Real world street fight, going to the ground is the last damn thing one wants to do. Try wrestling/fighting on blacktop/gravel in summer shorts and t-shirt...done it have the scars. Having the skills to get out of that are needed. Having the skills to prevent that are priority. Golden rule....once you grapple and/or go to the ground you cannot possibly engage more than one threat efficiently. Not knocking bjj in any way....that's about as good as it gets in that lane. Just got to be able to drive in all lanes and know which one to get into at what time.
 
You make some good points that many will miss. Going full bore with another skilled fighter in your lane, although challenging can be much more predictable that going full tilt with a highly skilled and motivated bad guy or lessor "skilled" guy that is just a damn mean physical fighter. which to your point is much easier to take injury vs a blow. A point that I cannot overemphasize is one that one or more of the earlier posters made that is spot freaking on. Real world street fight, going to the ground is the last damn thing one wants to do. Try wrestling/fighting on blacktop/gravel in summer shorts and t-shirt...done it have the scars. Having the skills to get out of that are needed. Having the skills to prevent that are priority. Golden rule....once you grapple and/or go to the ground you cannot possibly engage more than one threat efficiently. Not knocking bjj in any way....that's about as good as it gets in that lane. Just got to be able to drive in all lanes and know which one to get into at what time.

Yes I agree. Jujitsu is excellent. But you would never try to take a fight to the ground on the street. But it’s still a useful tool in your toolbox for many reasons. Even if you are street oriented.

If you’ve trained in enough arts, you can recognize somebody’s game in the first 3 to 5 seconds. Then, if he can’t swim, you take him in the water.

JKD is really where it’s at. JKD philosophy would say that you should learn BJJ, but only to know the game and use what works for you.

My style was always JKD, but my JKD involved jujitsu, Muaythai, kali, and other arts.

And as the poster above said, Kali or a Filipino knife art is exceptional on the street. Although if you’re ever forced to go there, it’ll get real messy real quick. There’s no middle ground.

We used to say in a knife fight, one guy goes to the morgue, and the other guy drives himself to the hospital.
 
Yes I agree. Jujitsu is excellent. But you would never try to take a fight to the ground on the street. But it’s still a useful tool in your toolbox for many reasons. Even if you are street oriented.

If you’ve trained in enough arts, you can recognize somebody’s game in the first 3 to 5 seconds. Then, if he can’t swim, you take him in the water.

JKD is really where it’s at. JKD philosophy would say that you should learn BJJ, but only to know the game and use what works for you.

My style was always JKD, but my JKD involved jujitsu, Muaythai, kali, and other arts.

And as the poster above said, Kali or a Filipino knife art is exceptional on the street. Although if you’re ever forced to go there, it’ll get real messy real quick. There’s no middle ground.

We used to say in a knife fight, one guy goes to the morgue, and the other guy drives himself to the hospital.
In my opinion, for what it's worth, you have a level of understanding that most that travel these roads do not. Good for you...I could probably not train with you anymore cause I have broken my first rule of conditioning, but I could have a beer with you and enjoy some tacos and have adult conversation on the subject matter. You seem to have the passion and conviction that I once had and many of my contemporaries did. Thank goodness for that and hold it as long as you can. Never give up...indomitable will in the face of it all. God bless.
 
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