There were a pair walking around this morning right after I got into the stand. Things sounded like they were huge until I found them on a thermal monocular to identify them. Might be some fun NV hunting them later in the season.
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I suggest hi brass ,tough Dilo took 5 rounds of 12 gauge from about 25 feet before he gave up. Carried him to the property corner and found out that buzzards don't like them ether.A shotgun with small bird shot is pretty effective at 20 feet but a 30 or 50 feet.