Daughter's Encounter With Two LE Agencies

[Bear44]

Any time I have an encounter with LEO other than "Hey, how ya doin" or a license check I always inform out of courtesy. I have never had a negative reaction and only one asked to see my GWL and he admitted it as more out of curiosity than anything else. He had never seen one.

As for buzzards, I had one slide along my hood and up the windshield one time. It was fine, but it puked and s**t all over my car. That was a fun ride home. Stinking, nasty things! How about half digested possum limbs for hood ornaments?

 

[chiefsquirrel83]

Glad that your daughter is safe and that she encountered some good LEO's. and sorry that your thread got hi-jacked by the trolls...

 

[reserveso]

As a Cop I understand the law and don't ask if someone has a gun, Dunkel here you go an Officer who knows the law. As for those who say "hey I have a weapon in the car and a lic. for it." ok great thanks for being armed. please press hard through all 5 copies. and have a nice day .

As for the young lady and her mother I am very happy they were ok from what could have been a tragic accident.

 

[Bear44]

As a Cop I understand the law and don't ask if someone has a gun, Dunkel here you go an Officer who knows the law. As for those who say "hey I have a weapon in the car and a lic. for it." ok great thanks for being armed. please press hard through all 5 copies. and have a nice day .

As for the young lady and her mother I am very happy they were ok from what could have been a tragic accident.

Welcome to the ODT and thanks for your service.

 

[redlevel]

Your post is unclear- is your wife opposed to carrying, or...?

My wife did not grow up in a home with a lot of guns. She has never been interested in shooting, although the few times she has consented to shoot one of my S&W revolvers, she has done very well. She was a scholarship athlete at UGA and has wonderful hand/eye coordination. I bet she could be a good wing shot, but she just has never been really interested. I don't try to force her, just so long as she doesn't complain about my addiction, and she doesn't. She has never opposed my carrying. She realizes the logic in our grown daughter having a weapon in her car when she is on the road by herself, or with a friend. She just isn't exactly enthusiastic, if that makes sense.

 

[dunkel]

Once it's been established that everyone was ok (which it was) and the thread has gone on for three pages (which it has), I don't consider it trolling to discuss some of the other aspects of the story. There are undoubtedly some people on these boards who are unaware that Georgia is not a duty to inform state, so I took this opportunity to use a real world experience to provide some education. I gave my point of view, along with explaining the law, but I don't think I told anyone they should do anything. What you choose to do is up to you, of course. I just want you to be able to make an informed decision. If you know the law and let everyone know anyway, well, I don't understand that move, but support your right to make it.

It seems that the cop who posted here agrees with me.

 

[redlevel]

Is there anything else anyone would like to tell a cop about, ya know, as a courtesy? Knife? Bottle of Coke? Baggie of coke?

If it's concealed, it's concealed. If it's in the glovebox, conceal it before they get there. Unless there's some reason you're going to be waving it around or you think it's going to fall out of the holster and land on the ground in front of the cop (admittedly an awkward moment), it's neither necessary nor legally required.

I understand the "courtesy" thing, but for those that conceal, isn't one of the arguments "no one needs to know but me"?

In this case, the revolver was in the console. The vehicle was going to be towed. The gun needed to be removed before whatever was going to happen next. Also, my daughter said she felt better standing 'side the road in an armed condition rather than unarmed. I agree that concealed is concealed, and that generally, in encounters with LEO, they have no need to know if you are legally carrying. However, this went beyond a normal, traffic-stop, license check type encounter. I guess if one considers the police the enemy, then your attitude would be the correct one. I haven't reached that point, and I believe the outcome of this incident. I also realize that things are different when dealing with two obviously non-threatening female school-teachers, but I remember a time that an officer would pat down any male he placed in his patrol unit as a matter of course. I recall a time in rural Taylor County, dang near forty years ago now, when the Chief Deputy picked up a broke-down motorist and brought him back to the SO until he could call someone. When they got back to the office, the Sheriff suggested the Deputy should follow procedure and place the guy in a holding cell. He had a small .25 auto in his pocket. Turned out to be stolen. The guy also had outstanding warrants. You ever know. I believe that a police officer who must transport someone in his "cruiser" absolutely has the right to know if that person is armed.

 

[redlevel]

Once it's been established that everyone was ok (which it was) and the thread has gone on for three pages (which it has), I don't consider it trolling to discuss some of the other aspects of the story. There are undoubtedly some people on these boards who are unaware that Georgia is not a duty to inform state, so I took this opportunity to use a real world experience to provide some education.

Your first post (Post #4) could be construed as educational, although it could also be construed as condescending.

Your other post (Post #25) is definitely trollish.

 

[dunkel]

Your first post (Post #4) could be construed as educational, although it could also be construed as condescending.

Your other post (Post #25) is definitely trollish.

I'm sorry you feel that way.

I agree that each situation is different and a judgement call must be made depending on the circumstances.

 

[medicoc]

In this case, the revolver was in the console. The vehicle was going to be towed. The gun needed to be removed before whatever was going to happen next. Also, my daughter said she felt better standing 'side the road in an armed condition rather than unarmed. I agree that concealed is concealed, and that generally, in encounters with LEO, they have no need to know if you are legally carrying. However, this went beyond a normal, traffic-stop, license check type encounter. I guess if one considers the police the enemy, then your attitude would be the correct one. I haven't reached that point, and I believe the outcome of this incident. I also realize that things are different when dealing with two obviously non-threatening female school-teachers, but I remember a time that an officer would pat down any male he placed in his patrol unit as a matter of course. I recall a time in rural Taylor County, dang near forty years ago now, when the Chief Deputy picked up a broke-down motorist and brought him back to the SO until he could call someone. When they got back to the office, the Sheriff suggested the Deputy should follow procedure and place the guy in a holding cell. He had a small .25 auto in his pocket. Turned out to be stolen. The guy also had outstanding warrants. You ever know. I believe that a police officer who must transport someone in his "cruiser" absolutely has the right to know if that person is armed.

While I usually fall into the "don't inform" crowd, in this instance I think it is the right thing to do. I think a reasonable argument could also be made that a police car is an extension of a courthouse or jail in the same way that our car is an extension of our home. Something to think about either way.