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I don't understand optics at all

Don't cheap out on your scope and mount. I'll never understand why (I've seen this more times than I care to admit) people spend the scratch to buy DD or LWRC ARs and then top it off with an awesome, and I mean picatinny rails EVERYWHERE AWESOME!, NC-Star $40 optical sight on it. I use Leupold, Nightforce and Vortex scopes. I like the Vortex for price/performance value. The Nightforce is very good too. Leupold is the fat girl at the barn dance, she'll do but ain't got a lot of panache.

Add trijicon and aimpoint to that list and that's all I'll purchase myself. I'll stick to iron sights if I can't put a decent optic on my rifle
 
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This target is the first time I took my high dollar AR10 build out for test fire with a 225 dollar scope. It was a Busnell AR Optics 308 scope I ordered from Optics Planet. I wasn't expecting great results but you can see where I walked in the shots from the right in to the bulls eye. Once I hit the bulls eye I shot four 3 shot groups on all four corners. Pretty impressive for a 225 dollar scope. Look where I walked in the shots to the bull eye. Each click was about a quarter inch and that was four shots. Then I gave it a good turn of the turret and I was right in the red. The Average spread on those four corner shots was about .385. How about that form a 225 dollar scope. Every time I take it out it does the same thing. As long as I use the same ammo it still prints the same spread. What is impressive is the four shots that were one click going into the red in the middle. They were right on a quarter click and touching each other.View attachment 1310150 View attachment 1310150 View attachment 1310150 View attachment 1310150 View attachment 1310150
 
You don't have to spend a ton to get a good functioning scope. That's like saying I will drive a Porsche or a Corvette or I will stick with a bicycle. When a Nissan Sentra will get you back and forth to work every day of the year.
 
I'm considering new glass instead of a new rifle for this season. I would like to be able to extend my hunt. Hope to find something that really grabs the light.
 
Academy has a Zeiss (1" tube) 3x9x42 on sale from $300.00 to $224.00 now. This is one of the best deals for the money you'll find right now. You can't go wrong with Zeiss.

There are a ton of scopes that'll hold zero and return to zero that you can use at the range during daylight hours, this is not a hard task for a scope to accomplish. A hunting scope must transmit light, the less light that makes it through the scope the less you see early in the AM and late in the PM. Really good hunting scopes get expensive quick, just like really good tactical scopes.

I have Zeiss Conquest scopes on my kids rifles and I love them. Not only are they solid, but I can see better through the scope in low light than with the naked eye, not as well as my higher end scopes, but much better than any other scope in the same price range (other scopes aren't even close).
 
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