There is a GSD for sale here and the seller is totally lacking some important info for his asking price, I've gotten a ton of pm so I'd figured I'd not muddy up the guys thread and start this.
These are my opinions, but I've bred, trained and handled working dogs for 10+ years. I'm not a hot shot pro, I love animals, I love a working dog that has so much trust and loyalty to its handler it will dive through a grenade blast for a tennis ball reward.
There's been several posts with people selling dogs for $1000-$1500-$2000+, but no info to back it up. Other than the "dog is social "...wow! No kidding? Unless its a puppy from a proven breeder and the parents are solid and done "something", its a freaking rip off!
In the working dog community puppies work as soon as they eat solid food. 99% of my experience is patrol work. All work is presented as a game to the dog, that way he loves to do it and wants to work. Puppies are taught with rags to build prey drive. They love to bite and chew and a old rag dancing around tied to a string is the bees knees. They are then taught to hold that rag and not drop it. Then as they grow, their teeth grow and their brains grow, they graduate to a puppy tug, then a basic Puppy sleeve and so on.
All those dogs are trained in obedience. From the start. They will learn to jump up on a slippery surface and sit. Stay, jump back up, jump through a curtain made of plastic bottles, maintain contact with prey or target while someone bounces their favorite ball or has treats. This is all around 6-8 months. You want a solid, stable, driven dog. Not "he's from good bloodlines and is crate trained, I want 2k for him". 2k will get you a 75% trained patrol dog. All day long.
Lots of good breeders and handlers will quickly determine if the dog is stable or not. Weak nerves, aggressive, stubborn. Those dogs wash out and aren't worked. Lots of times they are given away. That's when some butt hat tries to sell it to an unknowning person.
This is what a typical green, but base trained dog would look like. He's not mine, I just yanked it for an example. He s sorta a wash out, but the size doesn't matter and is actually a good thing in many cases.http://vanwijntuin.com/dogs-for-sale/amore/
He list what his dog can do and what its been trained for. Not it sits and doesn't **** in the crate. That dog could likely be had for 1200-1300, maybe less. I've seen guys get those types for 500-800 bucks.
These are my opinions, but I've bred, trained and handled working dogs for 10+ years. I'm not a hot shot pro, I love animals, I love a working dog that has so much trust and loyalty to its handler it will dive through a grenade blast for a tennis ball reward.
There's been several posts with people selling dogs for $1000-$1500-$2000+, but no info to back it up. Other than the "dog is social "...wow! No kidding? Unless its a puppy from a proven breeder and the parents are solid and done "something", its a freaking rip off!
In the working dog community puppies work as soon as they eat solid food. 99% of my experience is patrol work. All work is presented as a game to the dog, that way he loves to do it and wants to work. Puppies are taught with rags to build prey drive. They love to bite and chew and a old rag dancing around tied to a string is the bees knees. They are then taught to hold that rag and not drop it. Then as they grow, their teeth grow and their brains grow, they graduate to a puppy tug, then a basic Puppy sleeve and so on.
All those dogs are trained in obedience. From the start. They will learn to jump up on a slippery surface and sit. Stay, jump back up, jump through a curtain made of plastic bottles, maintain contact with prey or target while someone bounces their favorite ball or has treats. This is all around 6-8 months. You want a solid, stable, driven dog. Not "he's from good bloodlines and is crate trained, I want 2k for him". 2k will get you a 75% trained patrol dog. All day long.
Lots of good breeders and handlers will quickly determine if the dog is stable or not. Weak nerves, aggressive, stubborn. Those dogs wash out and aren't worked. Lots of times they are given away. That's when some butt hat tries to sell it to an unknowning person.
This is what a typical green, but base trained dog would look like. He's not mine, I just yanked it for an example. He s sorta a wash out, but the size doesn't matter and is actually a good thing in many cases.http://vanwijntuin.com/dogs-for-sale/amore/
He list what his dog can do and what its been trained for. Not it sits and doesn't **** in the crate. That dog could likely be had for 1200-1300, maybe less. I've seen guys get those types for 500-800 bucks.
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