Maybe a dumb question

[ReservoirDawg10]

There is some major derp in this thread.

 

[GAgunLAWbooklet]

The 300 Blackout is not better than the 5.56 unless
you want the option to go suppressed, and especially with subsonic bullets.
If you're going to shoot unsuppressed full power loads, I don't think either cartridge has an advantage at normal self defense, tactical, battlefield, or hunting conditions.

For Target shooting at more than a few hundred yards, then the 223 or 5.56 is better. And of course the cost of the ammo is significantly cheaper in that caliber.

 

[Please Delete]

if you wanna shoot subs go fast twist.

 

[ReservoirDawg10]

Is anyone really looking for serious quality when 300 blackout is a 200 yard round? It’s an awesome short range round, But lacks performance at range, and high end ARs don’t really improve its performance.

To answer the OPs question, look at the ballistic differences for each caliber, as well as cost of ammo. Depending on what you plan on using that rifle for, the choice should be really clear.

Quality is quality. Reliability, accuracy, fit and finish. It all matters (to me at least) and it comes with quality. Even 22lr deserves quality and if you put quality into it, it performs well past what most people could imagine.

 

[cmshoot]

Quality is quality. Reliability, accuracy, fit and finish. It all matters (to me at least) and it comes with quality. Even 22lr deserves quality and if you put quality into it, it performs well past what most people could imagine.

Yep. I don’t build cheap AR’s, regardless of their caliber and/or intended use. Why have a “range gun” that is unreliable and inaccurate? How is that fun?

 

[Rgrbulldog]

Quality is quality. Reliability, accuracy, fit and finish. It all matters (to me at least) and it comes with quality. Even 22lr deserves quality and if you put quality into it, it performs well past what most people could imagine.

Cost vs benefit. Can you get a reliable 300 blackout rifle for far less than $1200? Absolutely! If my rifle costs $700, and someone else’s cost $1200, can they shoot $500 better than me? Doubt it. Again, guns are tools, not every job calls for Snap-on, some jobs are just fine with Craftsman, but never buy your tools from the Dollar Store. I’ve been earning a living with a rifle for 20 years, my service rifle and personal rifles are very different. When I’m in the woods, hogs don’t return fire, so I might not demand the same quality out of my hog rifle. If I did, it would be wasting money.

 

[Rgrbulldog]

A “high end” build won’t improve the distance you can engage by much, but it could have a huge difference in reliability.

FWIW, I run my suppressed 16” .300Blk out to 400yds with perfect accuracy, using 220grn subs. I’ll run it further when I get the chance.

Awesome. You shoot for a living, are you even considering the OP’s question? I shoot for a living too, and when people don’t know the difference between 5.56 and 300 blackout I don’t think telling him about “suppressed 16” .300Blk out to 400yds with perfect accuracy, using 220grn subs”. Just my opinion. I get what you’re saying, but probably better info for a more experienced shooter.

 

[300_whisper]

Quality is quality. Reliability, accuracy, fit and finish. It all matters (to me at least) and it comes with quality. Even 22lr deserves quality and if you put quality into it, it performs well past what most people could imagine.

Seriosuly, if guys think a $1200 .300BO is expensive, then they dont need to look at a voodoo or anschutz .22. lol

I love the .300BO. Its a great do all round, especially if you reload. Its a modern .30-30.

 

[300_whisper]

How does 300 Blackout compare to a 556 AR? Just got a email about a Daniel Defense 300 Blackout for $1200. Seem like a good price but I don’t know anything about it.

I wouldnt compare it to a .223. Its a different round with a different purpose. I personally like it since you can find off the shelf ammo from 110 grain ballistic tips at 2300 FPS up to 220 grain OTMs at ~1000 FPS. Its a very versatile round. Without getting into too much detail, think of it as a mondern .30-30. A well built gun, with some supersonics will give you a consistent 300 yard hunting / steel killing rifle. Also, as far as home defense, its definitely a contender. I am always in favor of more mass at faster speeds.

 

[Deleted member 97214]

Seems like .300 is the new go-to for suppression. If I wasn't ever gonna use a can, I'd go 6.5cm or 6.8spc. If I was looking for something non-nato that is. I think the .300 has similar velocity in supersonic, but holds more energy further out.

Been mulling this over in my mind also. Im just hesitant to get away from nato rounds for some reason.