Obama, Biden statement on gun policy (11:45 a.m. ET)

[partsman]

With any luck Biden will screw it up.

 

[beaker]

No that is exactly the topic. You can't quote the Bill of Rights like scripture as the end all, be all of validity of the argument and then say "well it has to do with the Constitution".
Of course it does, the Bill of Rights are just the first 10 amendments. Nothing more, nothing less.
They do not say that we are assured of these rights by nature, by virtue of providence, nor by the Almighty himself, rather, they state these are the things the federal government will ensure, until they are repealed or made otherwise obsolete by legislation.

I agree that you and I disagree.

Well, that was not the intent of the founders, understanding of presidents, and supreme court justices. These men seem to be in disagreement with you. Rights are God given, and cannot be legislated away.

[A]ll men are born equally free," and possess "certain inherent natural rights, of which they cannot, by any compact, deprive or divest their posterity.”
-- George Mason, Father of the Bill of Rights

“Nothing then is unchangeable but the inherent and inalienable rights of man.”
-- Thomas Jefferson, Author of the Declaration of Independence

Among the natural rights of the colonists are these: First a right to life, secondly to liberty, thirdly to property; together with the right to defend them in the best manner they can.”
-- Samuel Adams, American Statesman and Patriot

“The right of the individual against the State has ever been one of our most cherished political principles. The American Constitution has set down for all men to see the essentially Christian and American principle that there are certain rights held by every man which no government and no majority, however powerful, can deny. Conceived in Grecian thought, strengthened by Christian morality, and stamped indelibly into American political philosophy, the right of the individual against the State is the keystone of our Constitution. Each man is free.”
-- President John F. Kennedy

“One's right to life, liberty, and property, to free speech, a free press, freedom of worship and assembly, and other fundamental rights may not be submitted to vote; they depend on the outcome of no elections.”
-- U.S. Supreme Court Justice Robert H. Jackson

 

[Lazarus]

http://washingtonexaminer.com/article/2516400#.UNJHA3mgR56

Interesting.....

I like that guy but the only problem is under the AWB and mag cap limit him and his Berettas are OK.

 

[Thomas Villain]

... Biden is no exception, don't expect much from him that won't be refuted with ease.

Biden was instrumental in helping get the original AWB passed. I wouldn't underestimate him.