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OLD - Please refer to new thread - ODT Gun Show & Meet-Up - Moved to Jan 22, 2022!

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I'm sorry you're not.

We need more true, unconditional, uncompromising 2A supporters in this culture. We're giving it away and we don't even realize it. It's a terrible, counterproductive thing to show the anti 2A public that we need and/or are ok with gun control at our own events. It's the next best thing to a full concession to the anti-gun crowd and I want no part of it.

Should everyone have a right to carry a loaded firearm at your house, without limit? Or should you, as the owner, have the right to limit the gun rights of others on your property? How about your friends who come over for beer or six? Should their gun rights be absolute, in your house, if they are drunk? What about someone you know who has a bad habit of breaking important safety rules, like putting his finger inside the trigger guard, or muzzle sweeping folks? Should you impose some gun control rules over them, where your family lives? Gun control is sometimes appropriate, in very specific contexts.

A crowded, private event, where thousands of people will be handling firearms, testing actions and triggers, doing gun show-and-tell, is an example where some level of gun control is reasonable and wise. You need a serious reality check if you don't think the risk of a negligent discharge isn't dramatically higher at a gun show where guns are being handled 100% of the time, for other than defensive carry purposes.

If a negligent discharge event happens at a gun show, that will be used as an excuse to attempt to limit our gun rights in other, more significant contexts.
 
Since I know you wouldn never respond in an attempt to be sarcastic or fan any flames, I’ll explain to those that dont understand.
People are acting like this somehow is an event with only people from a closed group, and we all should completely trust that everyone here is as trained and careful as the next. Therefore precautions such as door checks and guns safetied, shouldn’t be nessesary because we all know each other and there would be no one there that we wouldn’t trust completely.
But since the ODT is open to the public anyone that anyone that creates a username and pays for entry is allowed in, it is factually not a “private event” And so normal security procedures set forth by the venue, would need to be followed.
Surprised that either of you would need this spelled out.

Ken, wow, you were surprised by my question. I do being sarcastic very well at times, but this was not one of those times. I did not recognize that your post was your response to safety procedures. I would have preferred that the tone of your response was on a higher level, but it appears that you did not want to answer any questions about your own post. However, I don't feel angry and certainly not hurt. But you should have left Dinky Dau out of your response to me. He did nothing that warranted your sarcasm.

This is the definition of a "public event"; A public event, as the name suggests, could refer to any event open for the general public.

This is the definition of a "private event" ; The event notification corresponds to a private event, when the holder of the event identifies information for accessing the private event and requires that the information must be used to enter the event."
Ken, that means, and I will use your words, "that anyone that creates a username and pays for entry is allowed in,".. This by definition makes it a private event. The owner of the site identified it as a "private event" by using the word US.

Now that I have spelled out the difference for you, I hope you will take my explanation in the same manner in which I took yours.
 
Let’s just stop bickering over semantics, the event is open to anyone that sees it, just like odt. No real need to debate it further. If you don’t like it you don’t have to come, very simple.

We’re gonna have a good time and not get mired down debating details that have already been set.

Lets debate whether people should be allowed to have more than one table or not, thats a detail that is still in question. Any opinions on that?
 
Let’s just stop bickering over semantics, the event is open to anyone that sees it, just like odt. No real need to debate it further. If you don’t like it you don’t have to come, very simple.

We’re gonna have a good time and not get mired down debating details that have already been set.

Lets debate whether people should be allowed to have more than one table or not, thats a detail that is still in question. Any opinions on that?

Fine
 
It's desirable to sell all of the tables. You might try limiting each member to one table for the first batch of 50 then you can judge how much serious interest there is. If at some point you see that all tables won't be sold at "one per" then raise it to "two per" but give existing table holders first dibs at a second table. Does that make sense?
 
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