Pitbull discussion started in The Awesome, Cool and Random Pic. Thread.

[Bear44]

My Mastiff is the spawn of satan.

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Yeah, looks like it. LOL!

 

[NewLeaf]

People tolerate aggression in small dogs much more than in larger breeds, thus genetic based aggression is much more likely in small breeds because people are more willing to breed an aggressive small dog than an aggressive large dog.

It's not Natural Selection, it's Human Selection.

Makes sense , and I'm guilty too , when our PomChi pitches a fit it cracks me up and I let her get away with it . I have never been that lenient with big dogs. Note: Whoever's fault it is I haven't met many Chi's that didn't have attitude haha

 

[Glorfindel]

People tolerate aggression in small dogs much more than in larger breeds, thus genetic based aggression is much more likely in small breeds because people are more willing to breed an aggressive small dog than an aggressive large dog.

It's not Natural Selection, it's Human Selection.

That’s probably true.

 

[Bryan]

People buy dogs the way they buy cars and trucks. They buy them to do a specific task they are good for or to represent them is the way they want to be perceived.

 

[Trailrider]

Showed Thor the graph, he doesn't approve.View attachment 2363270

He looks like he's about to bite me. Reported.

 

[MRH]

People buy dogs the way they buy cars and trucks. They buy them to do a specific task they are good for or to represent them is the way they want to be perceived.

I believe this to be true. Buying a dog should not be an impulse thing. It only takes a little effort and research to narrow down what it is that a person wants and needs in a dog. I like a dog who is trainable, good with kids, can protect, or at least deter, has a decent life expectancy, is loyal, etc...That's how I ended up with a Corso, but I believe a pit bull can be just as good.

 

[NewLeaf]

People buy dogs the way they buy cars and trucks. They buy them to do a specific task they are good for or to represent them is the way they want to be perceived.

Yep , when I was younger . Now I like sweet dogs and PitBulls top that list

 

[Bear44]

That sounds about right. I am no expert, but I am no fool either, and most common guardian/attack dog breeds are also owned by morons who are irresponsible d-bags. Pit bulls and their relatives are the most common among the d-bags. It's no wonder they are often singled out. There are good owners of big breeds and there are plenty of bad. Sure, there are cases of a dog simply being a bad apple, but they are minimal. You are a trainer, Bear, and so you obviously know what I'm saying when I say almost any dog can be obedient, to a degree. The lady who sold me my Cane Corso is also a trainer, and she specializes in aggressive dogs who have been picked up and/or taken to a shelter. When I first met her she had a pit bull in her back yard that was as gentle as a lamb. She then showed me a video of him a couple months before, when she first took him in. It was unbelievable how vicious he was when he arrived. Downright scary. He had previously been a fighting dog for some scumbag. Anyway, the difference was like night and day after she had worked with him. He may never be completely normal, and she said as much, but for the right owner he will be perfect. She said he was, in fact, a big chicken, but his fear made him seem aggressive. When he was afraid, he allowed his nerves/emotions to overcome him and he lashed out. He had never been taught any different. Just the opposite, in fact.

Again, I'm no expert, but I do believe most "bad" dogs are the result of a bad owner, or they are simply wild dogs.

Fear aggression is the most dangerous disorder in a dog. Sometimes it's learned and it sounds like the one your breeder has is that. Sometimes it's genetic. Poor things are just born that way and most of the time it's the results of irresponsible breeding. I hate "line" breeding (incest). It is responsible for the vast majority of mental disorders in dogs.

A genetically fearful dog is working off of emotion, rather than thought, and sometimes it can be so extreme it simply cannot be overcome. Extreme fear aggression is what most unstable dogs have. Unfortunately they can be quite dangerous. Fortunately ones that extreme are rare.

 

[MRH]

Fear aggression is the most dangerous disorder in a dog. Sometimes it's learned and it sounds like the one your breeder has is that. Sometimes it's genetic. Poor things are just born that way and most of the time it's the results of irresponsible breeding. I hate "line" breeding (incest). It is responsible for the vast majority of mental disorders in dogs.

A genetically fearful dog is working off of emotion, rather than thought, and sometimes it can be so extreme it simply cannot be overcome. Extreme fear aggression is what most unstable dogs have. Unfortunately they can be quite dangerous. Fortunately ones that extreme are rare.

Yes, and the breeder/trainer who I dealt with says the exact same thing. I found her to be interesting in the fact that she does not like breeders in general because they too can be very irresponsible. Insert line breeding. I got lucky with her, really. She has been trying to improve the breed (Cane Corso) since she first got started over 20 years ago. Her dogs are amazing, and will do anything she says. The parents of my dog are just incredible. That's why I bought her. She is showing great potential and intelligence.

 

[Bear44]

Makes sense , and I'm guilty too , when our PomChi pitches a fit it cracks me up and I let her get away with it . I have never been that lenient with big dogs. Note: Whoever's fault it is I haven't met many Chi's that didn't have attitude haha

Like all breeds, there are some really cool ones, too. The only pocket puppy I have ever owned was a super cool Chihuahua. Loved that little girl.