Remington to release R2Mi .50BMG bolt action rifle

[bulletslinger101]

Asking OP and anyone else... Does a 50 BMG shoot more accurately if it was a bolt action as opposed to Semi-Auto provided the same skill level shooter?

Asking OP and anyone else... Does a 50 BMG shoot more accurately if it was a bolt action as opposed to Semi-Auto provided the same skill level shooter?

Take a look at what the Mil did.... they had the m24 US Army (retired), M40 USMC (still in use with some units). Both bolt guns.

US Army develops M110 SASS (semi gun). USMC come on line to BOI for the M110. USMC is issued M110 along with US Army however USMC retains M40 variants..

US Army develops M2010 bolt gun. Currently Army and SOF use this platform. USMC to come onto BOI next fall.

Fun fact:
M24 and M40 is all Remington. -.308

M110 SASS is KAC- .308

M2010 is Remington - .308/ .338 Lap
(.338Lap for certain units.)

The U.S. Army plans to field the Barrett Mk22 MRAD in 2021 to eventually replace the M2010. Able to be chambered in .300 Norma Magnum and .338 Norma Magnum, the Mk22 can shoot out to 1,500 meters, 300 meters further than the M2010

Back to accuracy... the military maintains their accuracy not matter the platform. For years folks doubted the accuracy of the M110 SASS to the M24 /40.

When everything shook out during testing at APG, US Army Sniper Course & USMC Scout Sniper Course for Big service vetting and at SOTIC for SOF vetting. Accuracy stayed the same and in some cases improved.

So the old comparison of bolt vs. semi was laid to rest and snipers from all branches embraced the M110 SASS.

So:

METT-TC for kit and weapon system to accomplish your mission whatever that is to you. (Select the right platform for the right situation.)

Respectfully
Chris


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[cmshoot]

Take a look at what the Mil did.... they had the m24 US Army (retired), M40 USMC (still in use with some units). Both bolt guns.

US Army develops M110 SASS (semi gun). USMC come on line to BOI for the M110. USMC is issued M110 along with US Army however USMC retains M40 variants..

US Army develops M2010 bolt gun. Currently Army and SOF use this platform. USMC to come onto BOI next fall.

Fun fact:
M24 and M40 is all Remington. -.308

M110 SASS is KAC- .308

M2010 is Remington - .308/ .338 Lap
(.338Lap for certain units.)

The U.S. Army plans to field the Barrett Mk22 MRAD in 2021 to eventually replace the M2010. Able to be chambered in .300 Norma Magnum and .338 Norma Magnum, the Mk22 can shoot out to 1,500 meters, 300 meters further than the M2010

Back to accuracy... the military maintains their accuracy not matter the platform. For years folks doubted the accuracy of the M110 SASS to the M24 /40.

When everything shook out during testing at APG, US Army Sniper Course & USMC Scout Sniper Course for Big service vetting and at SOTIC for SOF vetting. Accuracy stayed the same and in some cases improved.

So the old comparison of bolt vs. semi was laid to rest and snipers from all branches embraced the M110 SASS.

So:

METT-TC for kit and weapon system to accomplish your mission whatever that is to you. (Select the right platform for the right situation.)

Respectfully
Chris


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The M24 is all Remington, but the M40A1 and it’s successors are not.

The M24 is built in-house by Remington for the Army.

The M40A1/A3/A5 were all built by 2112’s (Precision Weapons Repairer/Technicians) inside the Corps, at Quantico.

The M40A1 had a Remington 700 action, bolt, and trigger. Later models got rid of the Remington trigger and went to an aftermarket model.

They used barrels from multiple vendors, like Douglas, Hart, and more, but never from Remington. Later variants used only Schneider barrels. The stocks were McMillan. The original bottom metal for the M40A1 was modified Winchester M70 bottom metal, because it was steel. Later models used the Badger M5 DBM system.

The Corps, after using variants of the M40 in 7.62x51mm since 1966, started fielding the Mk13 Mod 7 in .300WinMag in 2018. The intent is to completely phase out the M40 platform.

 

[bulletslinger101]

The M24 is all Remington, but the M40A1 and it’s successors are not.

The M24 is built in-house by Remington for the Army.

The M40A1/A3/A5 were all built by 2112’s (Precision Weapons Repairer/Technicians) inside the Corps, at Quantico.

The M40A1 had a Remington 700 action, bolt, and trigger. Later models got rid of the Remington trigger and went to an aftermarket model.

They used barrels from multiple vendors, like Douglas, Hart, and more, but never from Remington. Later variants used only Schneider barrels. The stocks were McMillan. The original bottom metal for the M40A1 was modified Winchester M70 bottom metal, because it was steel. Later models used the Badger M5 DBM system.

The Corps, after using variants of the M40 in 7.62x51mm since 1966, started fielding the Mk13 Mod 7 in .300WinMag in 2018. The intent is to completely phase out the M40 platform.

cmshoot :

Thank you for your service and all you do however, here are some facts for you to consider:

The M40 and additional variants are Remington actions. They were first delivered to the USMC by Remington as a complete rifle from Remington.

The M40 was introduced in 1966. The changeover to the A1 model was completed in the 1970s, the A3 in the 2000s, and the A5 in 2009. Each M40 is built from a Remington 700 bolt-action rifle, and is modified by USMC armorers at Marine Corps Base Quantico, using components from a number of suppliers as you stated above.

The major differences between the M40 (SA) and the M24 (LA) .

The US Army wanted the ability to upgrade cartridges and calibers as they progressed through the service and years as the USMC wanted to stay with their SA cartridge.

Short answer is both of these rifles are Remington actions. The USMC

Here is some more infor for you to follow up with from PM ICE, MARCORSYSCOM our of Quantico VA. Please feel free to give them a shout and if you dont get your questions andswered, launch a FOIA seeking the specific information your looking for.

https://www.marcorsyscom.marines.mil/Portfolios-and-Programs/GCES/PMICE/

This is just in perspective of the M49/M24 comment. I understand the M40 series is phased out.

Respectfully
Chris

 

[cmshoot]

cmshoot :

Thank you for your service and all you do however, here are some facts for you to consider:

The M40 and additional variants are Remington actions. They were first delivered to the USMC by Remington as a complete rifle from Remington.

The M40 was introduced in 1966. The changeover to the A1 model was completed in the 1970s, the A3 in the 2000s, and the A5 in 2009. Each M40 is built from a Remington 700 bolt-action rifle, and is modified by USMC armorers at Marine Corps Base Quantico, using components from a number of suppliers as you stated above.

The major differences between the M40 (SA) and the M24 (LA) .

The US Army wanted the ability to upgrade cartridges and calibers as they progressed through the service and years as the USMC wanted to stay with their SA cartridge.

Short answer is both of these rifles are Remington actions. The USMC

Here is some more infor for you to follow up with from PM ICE, MARCORSYSCOM our of Quantico VA. Please feel free to give them a shout and if you dont get your questions andswered, launch a FOIA seeking the specific information your looking for.

https://www.marcorsyscom.marines.mil/Portfolios-and-Programs/GCES/PMICE/

Respectfully
Chris

The A1/A3/A5 variants were not built from Remington rifles......they were built by USMC Armorers on Remington actions. The only parts sourced from Remington were the actions, bolts, and, on some rifles, the triggers. So, not built from a Remington rifle, built on a Remington action.

If you have a custom rifle built by GAP on a Rem700 action, you don't say that you have a Remington 700. You have a GAP rifle.

 

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The A1/A3/A5 variants were not built from Remington rifles......they were built by USMC Armorers on Remington actions. The only parts sourced from Remington were the actions, bolts, and, on some rifles, the triggers. So, not built from a Remington rifle, built on a Remington action.

If you have a custom rifle built by GAP on a Rem700 action, you don't say that you have a Remington 700. You have a GAP rifle.

or if you’re a prude like me you get the GAP built on their Templar action.

 

[bulletslinger101]

The M24 is all Remington, but the M40A1 and it’s successors are not.

The M24 is built in-house by Remington for the Army.

The M40A1/A3/A5 were all built by 2112’s (Precision Weapons Repairer/Technicians) inside the Corps, at Quantico.

The M40A1 had a Remington 700 action, bolt, and trigger. Later models got rid of the Remington trigger and went to an aftermarket model.

They used barrels from multiple vendors, like Douglas, Hart, and more, but never from Remington. Later variants used only Schneider barrels. The stocks were McMillan. The original bottom metal for the M40A1 was modified Winchester M70 bottom metal, because it was steel. Later models used the Badger M5 DBM system.

The Corps, after using variants of the M40 in 7.62x51mm since 1966, started fielding the Mk13 Mod 7 in .300WinMag in 2018. The intent is to completely phase out the M40 platform.

Mk 13 Mod 5
The USSOCOM uses the MK 13 Mod 5 rifle chambered in .300WM. The Mk 13 Mod 5 utilizes the "long-action" bolt of the Rem 700/ M24 receiver and has a precision barrel that can be fitted with the suppressor of the Mk 11.

Mk13 Mod 7
In April 2018, the USMC announced they would be replacing the M40 series with the Mk 13 Mod 7; M40A6 being upgraded in 2014. The Mk 13 chambered in .300 Winchester Magnum increases range from 1,000 meters with the M40 to 1,300 meters, giving Marine snipers similar capabilities to the U.S. Army's M2010 ESR. The Marine Corps plans to field the Barrett Mk22 MRAD in 2021 for its Advanced Sniper Rifle (ASR) program to eventually replace the Mk13 Mod 7; USMC BOI for these rifles is currently less than 300. Able to be chambered in .300 Norma Mag and .338 Norma Mag, the Mk22 has the capability to engage and strike targets out to 1,500 meters, several hundred meters further than the .300 Winchester Magnum-chambered Mk13 Mod 7.

This rifle is a Rem collaboration with AI. It's a LA Rem receiver and Bolt.....

 

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Mk 13 Mod 5

This rifle is a Rem collaboration with AI. It's a LA Rem receiver and Bolt.....

Thats great info. Thanks for that.

I dont think anyone is denying that its not a Rem 700 platform, but I would definitely not call it a Rem 700 rifle. I.E. A complete build remington produces in house. Remington is more a parts supplier, supplying one piece of the puzzle which is their receiver. Anyway, regardless, remington does make a nice bolt gun. Check out their 700 5R Gen II. Absolutely awesome.

 

[bulletslinger101]

Thats great info. Thanks for that.

I don't think anyone is denying that its not a Rem 700 platform, but I would definitely not call it a Rem 700 rifle. I.E. A complete build Remington produces in house. Remington is more a parts supplier, supplying one piece of the puzzle which is their receiver. Anyway, regardless, Remington does make a nice bolt gun. Check out their 700 5R Gen II. Absolutely awesome.

I'd have to agree with you. I love the 5R and have a few of them.

Triggers suck and then guys jumped on that band wagon looking for every little thing that could possibly be wrong with their gun. They buy a $350 SPS and then complain about it not shooting like their buddies AI.

I hear this a ton. I wished I new someone that had a AI rifle just to put 2 rounds through so I could see what all the hubub is about. Then if I thought it was worth the investment, I wish i could afford a complete AI rifle. All I know about them is what I read about them. I have zero experience with them.

[/QUOTE]Yeah, I’m a Remington, fanboy. What about it?? Lol[/QUOTE]​

I grew up shooting Remington bolt rifles and have continued to do so through the service. I like a good semi gun for sure. To me there is nothing like throwing a bolt, the lugs locking up and squeezing that trigger.

To a lot of folks they tend to prefer a semi gun over a bolt gun simply for the fact they the are able to put more rounds down range through a semi gun than a bolt gun... Through training and God knows how many hours of bolt manipulations, "I think one could get close to a rate of fire with a bolt gun a semi gun is able to fire". I for one am not one of those folks thats able to.

 

[cmshoot]

Mk 13 Mod 5
The USSOCOM uses the MK 13 Mod 5 rifle chambered in .300WM. The Mk 13 Mod 5 utilizes the "long-action" bolt of the Rem 700/ M24 receiver and has a precision barrel that can be fitted with the suppressor of the Mk 11.

Mk13 Mod 7
In April 2018, the USMC announced they would be replacing the M40 series with the Mk 13 Mod 7; M40A6 being upgraded in 2014. The Mk 13 chambered in .300 Winchester Magnum increases range from 1,000 meters with the M40 to 1,300 meters, giving Marine snipers similar capabilities to the U.S. Army's M2010 ESR. The Marine Corps plans to field the Barrett Mk22 MRAD in 2021 for its Advanced Sniper Rifle (ASR) program to eventually replace the Mk13 Mod 7; USMC BOI for these rifles is currently less than 300. Able to be chambered in .300 Norma Mag and .338 Norma Mag, the Mk22 has the capability to engage and strike targets out to 1,500 meters, several hundred meters further than the .300 Winchester Magnum-chambered Mk13 Mod 7.

This rifle is a Rem collaboration with AI. It's a LA Rem receiver and Bolt.....

Yessir, I’m aware of that information. I still wouldn’t call it a collaboration, when Remington and AI are just sources for parts. The Mk13 Mod 7’s are being built by NSWC Crane, from parts sourced from over a dozen different vendors. You could as easily call it a Nightforce collaboration with Spuhr, or a Bartlein collaboration with Surefire.