Suppressor purchase now or wait?

[spencer60]

So far everything I've heard discussed is whether the lack of tax will bring in new buyers for suppressors. That's pretty much the basis for thinking there will be a huge demand surge since it's the largest segment of gun owners out there.

If we're just talking about existing owners buying cans because the cost has gone down a bit, that's a much, much smaller group.

 

[ReservoirDawg10]

So far everything I've heard discussed is whether the lack of tax will bring in new buyers for suppressors. That's pretty much the basis for thinking there will be a huge demand surge since it's the largest segment of gun owners out there.

If we're just talking about existing owners buying cans because the cost has gone down a bit, that's a much, much smaller group.

Will there be higher demand? More purchases? Will supply be stripped or lacking?

Great attempt to sway the conversation for whatever reason.

 

[spencer60]

Will there be higher demand? More purchases? Will supply be stripped or lacking?

Great attempt to sway the conversation for whatever reason.

Yes (at least some), yes (at least some) and maybe (probably depends on the manufacturer)...

And 'sway' the conversation where? I couldn't care less which way it goes personally, I'm all set with cans right now and there's nothing out there right now that makes me want to buy a new one in the next 6 months, although that may change if something catches my eye.

I'm simply outlining why I don't think we'll see a huge spike in suppressor sales starting Jan 1st. You obviously think differently. No way to know until we see what happens.

 

[jonsmith6391]

The narrative out there is that dropping the $200 tax but leaving the process in place will stimulate a lot of demand among suppressor 'virgins', folks that are new to suppressors and the NFA in general.

Which also means, and I would almost guarantee this, a TON of rejected applications because they messed something up. This, to me, is what will cause the backlog the most; the plethora of new buyers who have no clue what they’re doing and listen to “the guy at the gun store.” No hate on LGS employees, but on stuff like this, you want expert advice.

 

[BigMike]

Which also means, and I would almost guarantee this, a TON of rejected applications because they messed something up. This, to me, is what will cause the backlog the most; the plethora of new buyers who have no clue what they’re doing and listen to “the guy at the gun store.” No hate on LGS employees, but on stuff like this, you want expert advice.

Respectfully disagree on the form errors, atleast on suppressors. Most dealers will only go through SS to file paperwork. While not infallible, they atleast get the form right.

Now I do see a lot of buyers regret, especially on cheaper cans. Youtube and reddit and Hollywood has folks believing suppressors sound like fly farts, no matter the gun, can, or ammo. The lack of $200 will open up the secondary market. The forms still need processing, but the extortion fee won't dissuade someone. I guarantee every suppressor owner that has multiple suppressors has atleast one theyd like to get rid of. Just my thoughts.

 

[jonsmith6391]

Respectfully disagree on the form errors, atleast on suppressors. Most dealers will only go through SS to file paperwork. While not infallible, they atleast get the form right.

I guarantee every suppressor owner that has multiple suppressors has atleast one theyd like to get rid of.

I concede on this as I didn’t think of SS.

I also think there are definitely some suppressors owners who would get rid of one they have. I’m waiting to get my paperwork done on my second one, but stopping there for now, I think.

 

[TresMonos]

I guarantee every suppressor owner that has multiple suppressors has atleast one theyd like to get rid of. Just my thoughts.

At least

 

[spencer60]

I hadn't thought about the resale market... but I could see that picking up a lot if wait times stay short and there's no tax involved.

How does that process even work? I always figured I was stuck with cans I hated (looking at you Gemtech MIST 10/22 barrel) for life.

 

[GAgunLAWbooklet]

How would the private-party transfer (ATF form 4) even work?
Well, you and the same-state buyer make a deal, you get your money / trade item,
you both fill out the form, one of you mails it in, when you as the seller
see the approved stamped (I assume they'll still affix NFA tax stamps) form
back from ATF, you save a copy / image of it and tell the buyer he can
come pick up the can. All person-to-person, no dealers needed, for an INTRA-state transfer.

I've done this for machineguns and short shotguns. Never done it for a can (yet).

That's for a paper Form 4 submission. I don't know about e-filing.

 

[BigMike]

How would the private-party transfer (ATF form 4) even work?
Well, you and the same-state buyer make a deal, you get your money / trade item,
you both fill out the form, one of you mails it in, when you as the seller
see the approved stamped (I assume they'll still affix NFA tax stamps) form
back from ATF, you save a copy / image of it and tell the buyer he can
come pick up the can. All person-to-person, no dealers needed, for an INTRA-state transfer.

I've done this for machineguns and short shotguns. Never done it for a can (yet).

That's for a paper Form 4 submission. I don't know about e-filing.

No eforms between individuals and yes, they affix a stamp to them. Just got one back in 40ish days.