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How do I like his crap now? Better than what the R's had to offer. It's not his "crap" holding us back. It's Congress. Not all Democrats are gun grabbers. Those that are won't get their way. Many that are remember the lost seats after the 94 ban and won't vote for it anyway. Republicans are making way more out of this than what it really is. It's mostly just political posturing. Obama kinda passed the buck on this to Biden. Biden is asking for crap he knows he won't get to appease the base and have something to blame the Republicans for...Kinda like how the Republicans do when they take on abortion only when they know they can't do anything with it. Quit falling for it. Live your life. All is well. The Dems are trying to put a bandaid on a gaping wound. The Republicans are trying to call a bandaid a body cast. One idiot Democrat Senator spouts off about magazines and assault rifles....Suddenly she's the voice of the entire party? If that's so, can I blame all Republicans for the nonsense that falls out of Palin's mouth? Another thing to consider, the press does not dictate policy or law. Just because the press keeps the stories rolling does not mean the politicians are spending equal time debating it all. They have bigger fish to fry. Piers Morgan gets on everybody's nerves...not just the Republicans. I'm assuming not all Republicans agree with Rush or Hannity on a regular basis?
I agree trickle down economics don't work, but that is exactly what you are supporting with these social programs. The Government takes money from the hands of production,runs it through the filter of Governemnt bureaucracy then it trickles down to the poor who end up with .48 on the dollar.
Yes I thank God John Mcshame did not win, the man is a psyhcopathic war hawk. That said we cannot place the blame o soley upon our empire war strategy. The entitlement programs consume too much production. The Burgoise class or the Aristocracy is Peoplle like FDR,Wilson,et al. The very men you would blame for greed and corruption are the ones who created the current monetarry system in this country.
Money in and of itself is not the solution, regardless of whatthe progressive lost want to believe. Money is the result,the end product of productive efforts.
The value of money has been all but stripped away by social hand out programs, the people that recieve this money do not respect it as a tool. They see it as a right. I would love to have you on my radio program some time, I am willing to bet we are not so far apart as it might seem in this format.
Yes I thank God John Mcshame did not win, the man is a psyhcopathic war hawk. That said we cannot place the blame o soley upon our empire war strategy. The entitlement programs consume too much production. The Burgoise class or the Aristocracy is Peoplle like FDR,Wilson,et al. The very men you would blame for greed and corruption are the ones who created the current monetarry system in this country.
Money in and of itself is not the solution, regardless of whatthe progressive lost want to believe. Money is the result,the end product of productive efforts.
The value of money has been all but stripped away by social hand out programs, the people that recieve this money do not respect it as a tool. They see it as a right. I would love to have you on my radio program some time, I am willing to bet we are not so far apart as it might seem in this format.
Between watching the videos and reading the posts from several people here, I have come to the conclusion: WE ARE SCREWED!!!
Like the rest of you I have seen good Government programs like social security medicare and the free phones, welfare be exploited so that abuse of the system is ramp-et.
I dont think social security started out looking the way it dose today. So that kind of mentality is what scares me about many aspects of government programs start out looking like one thing and end up years down the road looking like another. Before you know it rights have been taken away just look at the patriot act that Bush pushed after9/11 gives government the right to basically look into your private life enter your home without you knowledge if the suspect you of just about anything. I dont see the harm of the so called universal background check being done but my fear is that years down the road it will lead to something else the government has a way of growing a program well beyond what it starts out to be. Members of congress that pushed for the TSA at the time have now stated that they wish they never pushed for the program its out of control and the hundreds of well intentioned programs just like it all through the government pushed by both libs and conservatives alike they all want to control some aspect fo your like its just a choice of what aspects are you willing to let them control. I am done thanks
I dont think social security started out looking the way it dose today. So that kind of mentality is what scares me about many aspects of government programs start out looking like one thing and end up years down the road looking like another. Before you know it rights have been taken away just look at the patriot act that Bush pushed after9/11 gives government the right to basically look into your private life enter your home without you knowledge if the suspect you of just about anything. I dont see the harm of the so called universal background check being done but my fear is that years down the road it will lead to something else the government has a way of growing a program well beyond what it starts out to be. Members of congress that pushed for the TSA at the time have now stated that they wish they never pushed for the program its out of control and the hundreds of well intentioned programs just like it all through the government pushed by both libs and conservatives alike they all want to control some aspect fo your like its just a choice of what aspects are you willing to let them control. I am done thanks
While these programs are indeed abused, they also still do good as well. Don't punnish MeMaw cause some crackho takes a free ride. Rather than doing away with the programs, they should fortify the walls a bit. Obamacare is far from perfect. So repeal it? NO..fix it! What we had before was even less perfect and going back to that will only benefit the insurance companies, pharmaceutical companies and the politicians who are paid to protect these fine folks.
Another thing that irks me about the GOP platform. Is all the rhetoric about "BIG Government". They are a bit vague about what parts of the big government they want to cut out. Do you think they want less Congressmen? No IRS? less FBI? no BATF? probably not. What suffers first is parks and recreation so they can squander revenue from our hunting and fishing licenses and fines elsewhere. After awhile when all our parks are closed, who needs them? We might as well mow them down for lumber and develop the land. Pesky public schools...Everyone should pay and go to Christian school anyway right? Shutdown any branch that regulates business practice and safety. Not one thing they want to cut out benefits you or me in any way. It only benefits big businesses that seek to rape our lands and exploit our people
Another thing that irks me about the GOP platform. Is all the rhetoric about "BIG Government". They are a bit vague about what parts of the big government they want to cut out. Do you think they want less Congressmen? No IRS? less FBI? no BATF? probably not. What suffers first is parks and recreation so they can squander revenue from our hunting and fishing licenses and fines elsewhere. After awhile when all our parks are closed, who needs them? We might as well mow them down for lumber and develop the land. Pesky public schools...Everyone should pay and go to Christian school anyway right? Shutdown any branch that regulates business practice and safety. Not one thing they want to cut out benefits you or me in any way. It only benefits big businesses that seek to rape our lands and exploit our people
Well that sure went in an unintended direction! I didn't mean to start a redundant debate on which party sucks worse, there is certainly enough of that going on in Washington. Although my beliefs are very conservative, I am highly disappointed by our government and our people as a whole. Our country has too many issues to be standing around pointing fingers and looking for someone to blame. Anyone can look to the past and suggest reasons for why we are in this mess, but that does nothing but divide and create a stalemate when we need to be united and moving toward a solution.
I am genuinely curious about what it would take to get the everyday guy to take action to help resolve the issues plaguing our nation. I am not suggesting to start a war with our own government, that's just silly. Even if we did want to go that route, there is no way in hell a bunch of guys with ARs and pistols could stand a chance in fighting against apaches and f22s. I do think, however, that a bold statement could be made by the people becoming united and removing our politicians from office when they fail to do their job. Do you think your employers would keep you around if you repeatedly failed at your job duty? Regardless of what your beliefs are, our politicians are all acting like a bunch of 10 year old girls, arguing back and forth while nothing gets accomplished.
They only way to resolve a problem is to take real steps toward a solution and if they can't do that, why are we allowing them to remain in office? If politicians are made aware that their careers are in jeopardy, they might actually step up and perform the way they are supposed to.
I am genuinely curious about what it would take to get the everyday guy to take action to help resolve the issues plaguing our nation. I am not suggesting to start a war with our own government, that's just silly. Even if we did want to go that route, there is no way in hell a bunch of guys with ARs and pistols could stand a chance in fighting against apaches and f22s. I do think, however, that a bold statement could be made by the people becoming united and removing our politicians from office when they fail to do their job. Do you think your employers would keep you around if you repeatedly failed at your job duty? Regardless of what your beliefs are, our politicians are all acting like a bunch of 10 year old girls, arguing back and forth while nothing gets accomplished.
They only way to resolve a problem is to take real steps toward a solution and if they can't do that, why are we allowing them to remain in office? If politicians are made aware that their careers are in jeopardy, they might actually step up and perform the way they are supposed to.
I agree with a lot of what you are saying. That's the reason our people need to stop developing such strong opinions on the news broadcast. The media is very good at manipulating information to create division and chaos among the people, which gives the politicians the ability impose their will.
Our social spending is way out of control, but I wouldn't suggest doing away with the programs that help people genuinely in need. It is very frustrating to see how easily these programs are abused. There is no motivation for a career welfare recipient to better their situation when they can make a better living by staying home and collecting from the many available programs. I know not all people are like that, but many are. To resolve the issue, you must start somewhere. If someone is a drug addict, they are supporting their habit somehow, and if they can afford support a drug habit, they can afford to buy their own groceries. For me, asking for that validation should not be a problem. It is, after all, my money that is going to pay for it. For someone to stand up and play the race card or say its unconstitutional, just tells me there are many people that have something to hide.
I will likely never see any benefit from social security, but I am still required to pay into it every month. What is just about that? Same is true for many people, but instead of looking at the situation and recognizing they are being wronged, they will say, " that's because of the irresponsibility of your party". Does that make the situation any different?
Immigration is also crap. How can anyone look the other way while illegal immigrants are earning tax free wages, then filing fraudulent returns that claim 5 illegal children, which results in them receiving massive credits each year. Meanwhile, I am paying nearly a third of every dollar I make to Uncle Sam. I have no problem with folks from other countries coming to the US to make a better life, but if you want to utilize the entitlements that were designed for our citizens, you need to be contributing just as everyone else is.
As for big businesses being corrupt..well people can help change that too. If you don't like how the big banks are raping us, don't deal with them. Give your business to a small bank and tell everyone you know how great they are. Don't like Walmart killing small business? Don't shop there.
My point is, these are all issues that everyone can see and I would say if you took the political divide out of the equation, most people would share agreement on most issues, but instead of taking action, most will just sit around complaining and looking for someone to blame.
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Tell me which party had control of the house and which party had control of the senate when the bill for the phones was passed sir. I believe that was the 99th congress. It was indeed under President Reagan.
As for marriage uumm sir marriage has been defined as a union between one man and one woman for quite some time. Now if a gay man wishes to marry a gay woman I have no issue at all. IF a gay couple want to live together I support govt rights for both of them the same as me and my family thru civil union. But in order for a gay man to marry another gay man they had to change the very definition of marriage. In order for there to be a same sex marriage there must be an opposite sex marriage not just a plain ole marriage.
On the reproductive rights thing. Who is for defending the rights of that unborn child? I notice you aint for defending those rights so go on and tell me of your hypocricy.
Them stains pretty much smell equally of elephant and ass to me but you are certainly free to believe otherwise.
A background check where the govt forces such to go thru an FFL dealer such that the serial number of the firearm and the ID of the purchaser doesn't bother you sir?
It amounts to gun grabbing in the minds of many because of historical precedent and the fact that they can see no other reason for the registry that is formed by such. Oh the bill proposed for the so called "universal or almost universal background checks" says that no such registry will be formed and that the background check info will be destroyed after so many days. And yet can you explain why they wish to force every transfer to go thru an FFL dealer such that the serial number and the ID of the receiver of said weapon is noted in that FFL dealers record? (those records are kept until that dealer goes out of business when they are turned over to ATF, and I understand ATF can come inspect them any time they wish) Takes but a few minutes of Congresses time and the Presidents to pass and sign a bill into law creating that registry database that many fear.
Joe Biden explained in a Field and Stream article that they wanted it because they could use the info to trace firearms used in gun crimes. (he hasn't a clue how gun traces work tho as he seems to think once the serial number is entered into an FFL dealers records that now the govt knows which FFL dealer to go to for any firearm found, when in fact this only gets you to the original FFL dealer)
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IF your beef is with the cell phone thing you ought understand that started under President Bush, not President Obama.
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