And from folks that do not/will not clean and lube them. And from folks that take a dremel to them to make them "better"...
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Time to trade in your 1911s?
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And from folks that do not/will not clean and lube them. And from folks that take a dremel to them to make them "better"...
I have been using a 1911 for carry/range and just plain fun for 25+ years. I am no gunsmith by any means but do know how to disassemble (field and detailed) strip, clean and maintain the greatest pistol ever made. IMHO. Granted you need to know a little bit about maintaining a firearm to own a 1911. Just like you need to know where the gas and oil goes in you car.
I currently own 11 1911s and have owned others over the years. Most 1911s will run right out of the box. On occasion one may need a little tuning to get it set up right. To quote a line in the article "shooters struggling with poorly set up guns". The setup issues usually involve 2 problems which are easy to fix. Yes 1911s can be picky about their mags...buy a Wilson. Problem solved. 2nd issue is an improperly adjusted extractor. There are a dozen videos on UTube showing how to fix this. Once these problems are solved the gun will run for ever. As 2001SportTJ said "Once they were tuned up they ran like a top."
Yes I have changed out triggers, hammers, MSH and every other part on a 1911. The truth is today you do not need to do so with the current guns offered by todays manufacturers. There was a time (and you still can if you want to) when one would take an old government issued 1911 and send it off to the local gunsmith for 6 months to a year and add all the above bells and whistles. That is no longer needed. Buy it...fine tune it if it needs it...shoot the hell out of it. If something does break (rarely) you sure don't have to worry about parts.
I currently own 11 1911s and have owned others over the years. Most 1911s will run right out of the box. On occasion one may need a little tuning to get it set up right. To quote a line in the article "shooters struggling with poorly set up guns". The setup issues usually involve 2 problems which are easy to fix. Yes 1911s can be picky about their mags...buy a Wilson. Problem solved. 2nd issue is an improperly adjusted extractor. There are a dozen videos on UTube showing how to fix this. Once these problems are solved the gun will run for ever. As 2001SportTJ said "Once they were tuned up they ran like a top."
Yes I have changed out triggers, hammers, MSH and every other part on a 1911. The truth is today you do not need to do so with the current guns offered by todays manufacturers. There was a time (and you still can if you want to) when one would take an old government issued 1911 and send it off to the local gunsmith for 6 months to a year and add all the above bells and whistles. That is no longer needed. Buy it...fine tune it if it needs it...shoot the hell out of it. If something does break (rarely) you sure don't have to worry about parts.
Quit. You're making it look like I don't know what I'm doing. But for real, I didn't get that from the article. I may have to retread it, but I got "I've seen 1911s fail more than M&Ps, btw I think M&Ps are awesome" out of it.
I fell in love with the 1911 in boot camp. Years later , when I was financially able bought my own, then several more of the old Colt 70 series. Just a little bit of minor tuning & they all began to run like champs. So years later , sold them all at GS on consignment! NOT GOOD! Now I always plan to have a couple around, with these basic rules :
shoot them a LOT & with your carry load, to insure they run right! Buy top of the line magazines, like Wilson-rogers, etc.>>>> faulty magazines are the primary cause of problems with any semi-auto. I currently have a CMDR sized Ruger 1911, THROUGHLY TESTED & EVEN WITH CRAPPY HANDLOADS, HOT LOADS & EVEN ONCE WITH ABOUT 8 FULLY LOADED MAGAZINES RAPID FIRED TILL IT WAS HOTTER THAN TED KENNEDY'S ASS IN HELL, TO SEE IF IT WOULD FAIL. It is, on some days one of my primary carry guns when I'm not carrying my G-30----also tested in the same fashion. Don't plan on getting rid of either one! I'd advise all those folks who were lucky enough to snag one of those new G-42's to do the same thing. Spend the money on the ammo to wring it out!
shoot them a LOT & with your carry load, to insure they run right! Buy top of the line magazines, like Wilson-rogers, etc.>>>> faulty magazines are the primary cause of problems with any semi-auto. I currently have a CMDR sized Ruger 1911, THROUGHLY TESTED & EVEN WITH CRAPPY HANDLOADS, HOT LOADS & EVEN ONCE WITH ABOUT 8 FULLY LOADED MAGAZINES RAPID FIRED TILL IT WAS HOTTER THAN TED KENNEDY'S ASS IN HELL, TO SEE IF IT WOULD FAIL. It is, on some days one of my primary carry guns when I'm not carrying my G-30----also tested in the same fashion. Don't plan on getting rid of either one! I'd advise all those folks who were lucky enough to snag one of those new G-42's to do the same thing. Spend the money on the ammo to wring it out!
I pose these questions.
To everyone saying these were used in 2 world wars etc. Do you think if (insert polymer pistol) would have been around that those would have been better suited to that role then? If the answer is yes then why are you still carrying a 1911?
To those saying that you have only had a few problems with them in over 10+ years. Isn't a single failure cause enough to think about changing your EDC? One failure when it is needed the most means you might as well not even have it.....
Being sentimental about the 1911 blah blah I get it. Its a great gun to shoot for fun but I would never ever trust my life to a gun regardless of how much tuning I had done to it simply because of its propensity to fail compared to other options.
Being sentimental about a carry piece when there is something more reliable out there is just plain dumb.
To everyone saying these were used in 2 world wars etc. Do you think if (insert polymer pistol) would have been around that those would have been better suited to that role then? If the answer is yes then why are you still carrying a 1911?
To those saying that you have only had a few problems with them in over 10+ years. Isn't a single failure cause enough to think about changing your EDC? One failure when it is needed the most means you might as well not even have it.....
Being sentimental about the 1911 blah blah I get it. Its a great gun to shoot for fun but I would never ever trust my life to a gun regardless of how much tuning I had done to it simply because of its propensity to fail compared to other options.
Being sentimental about a carry piece when there is something more reliable out there is just plain dumb.
I have several 1911's I like them, the looks, the feel and accuracy. I have yet to find one plastic pistol that I like. Have had several Glocks, S&W, Springfield,Taurus not one was a good fit for me. Personal taste. That said I also have several revolvers that I love to shoot. If it ever comes down to a life or death situation I hope I am in reach of my rifle, if not I know my ECO will function as designed for two mags no worries at all.
If you find yourself in a situation where you need 100 rounds of ammo in rapid fire from a hand gun,your future is in grave danger.
If you find yourself in a situation where you need 100 rounds of ammo in rapid fire from a hand gun,your future is in grave danger.
i lik 1911s becus they r in cod
>>>>>>> Well ,maybe I didn't print it, but my CMDR 1911 doesn't fail, & I'm just as "sentimental" about my G-30. Had an old buddy who had a G-21 that had all kinda failures & he had to send it back to glock.
Works fine, now. Had a friend who bought a brand spanking new Colt Python that was slightly out of tune & would burn up yer face with hot gases & tiny little spits of lead. Colt fixed that too.
and the tuning I mentioned earlier on those 70 series Colts & you referenced was simply polishing the feed ramp & very, very slight enlargement of throat at rear of barrel for hollowpoints. Other stuff I did, in the way of pacifying my sentamentality included fancy grips adorned with my military insignia, night sites & stuff which in no way reflect upon reliability or lack thereof of the piece. Any firearm or machine can or maybe will fail at some time or another. Have a backup & a plan.
Wow someone who had a glock with problems. You hear about that how frequently as compared to 1911's? Come on I dont care what you carry but if you think your 1911 is anything more than an exception to a rule then you are doing yourself, and others, an injustice.
And how many years of experience do you have to make this kind of statement?
