Yeah the GOP ****ed up BAD. Primary the turncoats out. Specifically Thune that weasel.
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We got ‘til 1am on the HPA/SHORT Act🚨
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They are on track to lose the house in the mid terms and will wonder why
I could be wrong but from the videos I saw Mr. Clyde did pretty much all he could do. If they had sent it back to the Senate with his mods included the cunt parliamentarian would have most likely thrown it ALL out .
Guys we have a window of opportunity based on previous SCOTUS rulings on the NFA. Without the tax, the NFA as applied to these items may be ruled unconstitutional given that they ruled it Constitutional because it was a tax provision in a 1937 case. This may end up ok. Next would be get rid of the Huhes amendment which is being challenged right now and has been ruled unconstitutional by a U.S. District Judge. Let’s see how the Trump DOJ handles that case. Here’s a long rundown of what’s happened.
The **National Firearms Act (NFA)** is addressed in the **One Big Beautiful Bill Act (H.R. 1)**, a major legislative package passed by the U.S. House and Senate in 2025. The bill includes provisions that significantly modify NFA regulations, though not as extensively as some gun rights advocates initially hoped. Here’s a clear summary based on available information:
- **Key NFA Provisions in the Bill**:
- The bill eliminates the $200 excise tax on suppressors, short-barreled rifles (SBRs), short-barreled shotguns (SBSs), and “any other weapons” (AOWs) regulated under the NFA. This is a historic reduction, as it removes the financial burden imposed since the NFA’s enactment in 1934.[]
- The **Stop Harassing Owners of Rifles Today (SHORT) Act**, which aimed to remove SBRs, SBSs, and AOWs from NFA regulation entirely (including taxation, registration, and oversight), was included in Senate committee markup but was partially stripped due to Senate rules.[]
- **Section 2 of the Hearing Protection Act**, included in the House-passed version, fully removed suppressors from NFA regulation, eliminating both the tax and registration requirements. However, the Senate’s final version, after a “Byrd Rule” review by the Senate Parliamentarian, retained NFA registration and regulation for suppressors, SBRs, SBSs, and AOWs, only zeroing out the tax.[]
- The tax on machine guns and destructive devices remains unchanged, and these items continue to be fully regulated under the NFA.[]
- **Legislative Journey and Byrd Rule Impact**:
- The House passed H.R. 1 on May 22, 2025, with a 215-214 vote, including the Hearing Protection Act’s suppressor deregulation.[]
- In the Senate, the Finance Committee expanded the bill to repeal NFA taxes on suppressors, SBRs, SBSs, and AOWs, but the Senate Parliamentarian ruled that fully removing these items from NFA regulation violated the Byrd Rule, which governs reconciliation bills. As a result, the broader deregulation language was removed, and only the tax repeal was retained.[]
- The Senate passed the bill on July 1, 2025, with a 50-50 vote (Vice President J.D. Vance breaking the tie), sending it back to the House for concurrence. The House passed the final version on July 3, 2025, and it was sent to President Trump for his signature.[]
- **Implications and Future Challenges**:
- The removal of the $200 tax is seen as a significant victory for Second Amendment advocates, marking the first major NFA tax reduction in nearly a century. However, the retention of registration requirements disappointed groups like Gun Owners of America (GOA), who sought full NFA repeal.[]
- GOA and allies plan to file a federal lawsuit, dubbed the “One Big Beautiful Lawsuit,” to challenge the NFA’s remaining registration provisions, arguing that the tax repeal undermines the legal basis for the registry. They cite the Supreme Court’s 1937 ruling in *Sonzinsky v. U.S.*, which upheld the NFA as a tax law, suggesting that without the tax, the registry may be unconstitutional.[]
- Critics, like GIFFORDS, argue that loosening NFA regulations could increase risks to public safety, though they acknowledge that NFA-regulated items are rarely used in crimes due to existing restrictions.[]
- **Current Status**:
- As of July 4, 2025, the bill awaits President Trump’s signature, expected to be signed into law by Independence Day. The tax repeal will take effect upon signing, but NFA registration requirements for suppressors, SBRs, SBSs, and AOWs remain in place, subject to potential legal challenges.[]
- **Sentiment on X**:
- Posts on X reflect enthusiasm among gun rights supporters for the tax repeal, with some celebrating the inclusion of the SHORT Act and suppressor provisions in earlier Senate drafts. However, there’s frustration over the Byrd Rule’s impact, with users urging continued advocacy to fully deregulate NFA items.
They needed to get the BBB passed no question about that because of the tax and other implications. What we need to make sure they do is get rid
Of the Senate Parliamentarian which is a long-standing card carrying Democrat .
The **National Firearms Act (NFA)** is addressed in the **One Big Beautiful Bill Act (H.R. 1)**, a major legislative package passed by the U.S. House and Senate in 2025. The bill includes provisions that significantly modify NFA regulations, though not as extensively as some gun rights advocates initially hoped. Here’s a clear summary based on available information:
- **Key NFA Provisions in the Bill**:
- The bill eliminates the $200 excise tax on suppressors, short-barreled rifles (SBRs), short-barreled shotguns (SBSs), and “any other weapons” (AOWs) regulated under the NFA. This is a historic reduction, as it removes the financial burden imposed since the NFA’s enactment in 1934.[]
- The **Stop Harassing Owners of Rifles Today (SHORT) Act**, which aimed to remove SBRs, SBSs, and AOWs from NFA regulation entirely (including taxation, registration, and oversight), was included in Senate committee markup but was partially stripped due to Senate rules.[]
- **Section 2 of the Hearing Protection Act**, included in the House-passed version, fully removed suppressors from NFA regulation, eliminating both the tax and registration requirements. However, the Senate’s final version, after a “Byrd Rule” review by the Senate Parliamentarian, retained NFA registration and regulation for suppressors, SBRs, SBSs, and AOWs, only zeroing out the tax.[]
- The tax on machine guns and destructive devices remains unchanged, and these items continue to be fully regulated under the NFA.[]
- **Legislative Journey and Byrd Rule Impact**:
- The House passed H.R. 1 on May 22, 2025, with a 215-214 vote, including the Hearing Protection Act’s suppressor deregulation.[]
- In the Senate, the Finance Committee expanded the bill to repeal NFA taxes on suppressors, SBRs, SBSs, and AOWs, but the Senate Parliamentarian ruled that fully removing these items from NFA regulation violated the Byrd Rule, which governs reconciliation bills. As a result, the broader deregulation language was removed, and only the tax repeal was retained.[]
- The Senate passed the bill on July 1, 2025, with a 50-50 vote (Vice President J.D. Vance breaking the tie), sending it back to the House for concurrence. The House passed the final version on July 3, 2025, and it was sent to President Trump for his signature.[]
- **Implications and Future Challenges**:
- The removal of the $200 tax is seen as a significant victory for Second Amendment advocates, marking the first major NFA tax reduction in nearly a century. However, the retention of registration requirements disappointed groups like Gun Owners of America (GOA), who sought full NFA repeal.[]
- GOA and allies plan to file a federal lawsuit, dubbed the “One Big Beautiful Lawsuit,” to challenge the NFA’s remaining registration provisions, arguing that the tax repeal undermines the legal basis for the registry. They cite the Supreme Court’s 1937 ruling in *Sonzinsky v. U.S.*, which upheld the NFA as a tax law, suggesting that without the tax, the registry may be unconstitutional.[]
- Critics, like GIFFORDS, argue that loosening NFA regulations could increase risks to public safety, though they acknowledge that NFA-regulated items are rarely used in crimes due to existing restrictions.[]
- **Current Status**:
- As of July 4, 2025, the bill awaits President Trump’s signature, expected to be signed into law by Independence Day. The tax repeal will take effect upon signing, but NFA registration requirements for suppressors, SBRs, SBSs, and AOWs remain in place, subject to potential legal challenges.[]
- **Sentiment on X**:
- Posts on X reflect enthusiasm among gun rights supporters for the tax repeal, with some celebrating the inclusion of the SHORT Act and suppressor provisions in earlier Senate drafts. However, there’s frustration over the Byrd Rule’s impact, with users urging continued advocacy to fully deregulate NFA items.
They needed to get the BBB passed no question about that because of the tax and other implications. What we need to make sure they do is get rid
Of the Senate Parliamentarian which is a long-standing card carrying Democrat .
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This is a good and accurate summary. As much as I hate the way it went, the Parliamentarian was actually right by parliamentary procedure. I suspect it may have snuck through it f it had only been the HPA, but by rule, she'd have been correct to deny it.
Hopefully it still goes the way we want after challenges. Of course whatever gets done, can get undone and the GOP is trying their dead level best to surrender both chambers next year. 🤬
90% of the people bitching in this thread about “muh republicans failed me” will be standing in line in a week or two waiting to proudly show their weapons permit to buy that tax free registered can/sbr.
ODT Sunshine Patriots…..
ODT Sunshine Patriots…..
Indeed lol. Tyrants gonna tyrant. Regardless, happy Independence Day, folks. Go shoot some sh*t.
I would rather pay the $200 than fill out the paperwork.
The SCOTUS basis for the NFA being constitutional was the simple fact the NFA is/was a tax. That tax is now deleted from US code. The goal now is to sue and have the NFA ruled unconstitutional since the basis for it being legal under the Constitution is now gone.
The problem with this though, the courts will just refuse to take the case thus allowing the NFA to stand with an unconstitutional zero dollar tax.
The problem with this though, the courts will just refuse to take the case thus allowing the NFA to stand with an unconstitutional zero dollar tax.
it is not hard to understand that the people who cant understand "shall not be infringed" cant wrap their brain around a document that starts with ""We the People of the United States". is meant for only the citizens of the United states...
