Amen to that.
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Who here has gotten a job offer from a previous employer?
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I worked many years as a Locums tenens for agencies and as a free lancer. I can honestly say that I was offered a full time job at every place I worked Locums / fill in. I'm a nurse anesthetist, CRNA, and apparently there are a lot of jerks, both anesthesiologist and nurse anesthetist working out there.
About a year and a half ago, I got an offer to go back to work at my local rural hospital where I'd worked for many years up until the birth of our last son 15 years ago.
At that time the call responsibility was horrific and the pay for that call was substantially too low. I kept a log during that time, and there were days when I actually spent 18 hours IN the operating room administering anesthesia. I'd go into work on Thursday morning and not come home until Monday afternoon. And I live 15 minutes from the hospital. It was that busy and that bad. Never "unsafe", but very stressful.
Fast Forward to the fall of 2023: now time the call responsibly was much lower, and the renumeration was significantly more.
The negotiations went very well, and the fact that it was: 1. close to my house, and 2. still staffed by people I knew and trusted, made it an easy choice. No more hotels and travel, the staff and the administration trusted me as I'd kept my credentials for all those years, and had bailed them out of emergency disasters about once a year since 2010.
The best part is the amount of time off I can get. I am tied to the hospital when on call, but I actually have more time to spend with my lovely wife and teenage children. And that is what working is all about.
On the other hand: I did work a M-F, 7-3 job at another hospital in NE Ga after I left the job referenced above in 2010. The pay wasn't great but the benefits and no call requirements made it ok. The biggest negative was a nurse in the administration who hated nurse anesthetists. And I was the solo anesthetist at this rural hospital. She made my life as awful as she could, but I was always one step ahead and made the best that I could out of the adversarial environment.
I finally left when they asked me to be "available" 24/7, 365 days a year for a pittance. And they asked me to sign a contract that could not be met in regards to response time. That's when I started doing Locums.
Many years later I was asked to come back to that small hospital, again, because my reputation for quality work remained unblemished. My first question to the recruiter was "Does X still work there?" When I learned that the witch named was still employed at the hospital I had to decline. I was not about to enter an environment where I had to look over my shoulder every day. The pay proposed was fantastic for the work schedule, but the constant paranoia wasn't.
About a year and a half ago, I got an offer to go back to work at my local rural hospital where I'd worked for many years up until the birth of our last son 15 years ago.
At that time the call responsibility was horrific and the pay for that call was substantially too low. I kept a log during that time, and there were days when I actually spent 18 hours IN the operating room administering anesthesia. I'd go into work on Thursday morning and not come home until Monday afternoon. And I live 15 minutes from the hospital. It was that busy and that bad. Never "unsafe", but very stressful.
Fast Forward to the fall of 2023: now time the call responsibly was much lower, and the renumeration was significantly more.
The negotiations went very well, and the fact that it was: 1. close to my house, and 2. still staffed by people I knew and trusted, made it an easy choice. No more hotels and travel, the staff and the administration trusted me as I'd kept my credentials for all those years, and had bailed them out of emergency disasters about once a year since 2010.
The best part is the amount of time off I can get. I am tied to the hospital when on call, but I actually have more time to spend with my lovely wife and teenage children. And that is what working is all about.
On the other hand: I did work a M-F, 7-3 job at another hospital in NE Ga after I left the job referenced above in 2010. The pay wasn't great but the benefits and no call requirements made it ok. The biggest negative was a nurse in the administration who hated nurse anesthetists. And I was the solo anesthetist at this rural hospital. She made my life as awful as she could, but I was always one step ahead and made the best that I could out of the adversarial environment.
I finally left when they asked me to be "available" 24/7, 365 days a year for a pittance. And they asked me to sign a contract that could not be met in regards to response time. That's when I started doing Locums.
Many years later I was asked to come back to that small hospital, again, because my reputation for quality work remained unblemished. My first question to the recruiter was "Does X still work there?" When I learned that the witch named was still employed at the hospital I had to decline. I was not about to enter an environment where I had to look over my shoulder every day. The pay proposed was fantastic for the work schedule, but the constant paranoia wasn't.
Actually, my OCD wouldn't let me make a bad pizza even to the last day. I got yelled at quite frequently I wasn't being fast enough.Oh WOW..
Now I know why my Pizza was so bad that day...
I know, I was just messing with you! We don't even order pizza at our house. My boss wifey doesn't eat them and doesn't let us eat either! lol
Worked a summer job in Cartersville in 1972 left and went to
Daniels Construction company and help building Lake Arrowhead Damn for res of Summer and weekends.
1975 Went to Cartersville Spinning/ World Carpet maintenance 3 years
1980 went to Plant Bowen with contract work inside 43 years. Safety Professional for 23 of the 43 years.
Retired in 2023.
Daniels Construction company and help building Lake Arrowhead Damn for res of Summer and weekends.
1975 Went to Cartersville Spinning/ World Carpet maintenance 3 years
1980 went to Plant Bowen with contract work inside 43 years. Safety Professional for 23 of the 43 years.
Retired in 2023.
It doesn't matter how good you are, they will always complain anyway. Part of the madness....
Not me, but the story of a friend's father:
After 20+ years in the US Army Intelligence (I know, it's an oxymoron) Mr. "K" went to work for a big military industrial complex company. Mr. K had specialized in the Asian / East Asian sphere of military intelligence.
Years later that company was making arrangements to sell some aircraft to South Korea. Mr. "K", as an "expert" in Asian culture did a whole lot of the work on the the initial deal and negotiations. He knew a lot about Korean business models, made close relationships with the decision makers, and worked his butt off to make the deal.
Once the deal was in the works (hand shake agreement?), but NOT signed off with any contract, the big military company gave Mr. K the sack. "thank you for your work on the project, we don't need you anymore"
Mr. K started a franchise business. He couldn't be beat down.
When the day came for the contract to be signed the chief negotiator for the Korean government asked "Where is Mr. K?"
Military Industrial Complex guy: "Uh, he's no longer with us. But we don't need him. Please sign the contract."
Hushed Korean voices as the potential buyers clustered together.....long pause of silence from the MIC boys.
"Did Mr. K do anything wrong? Did he leave of his own accord?"
MIC guys, now getting warm under the collar, "ummm, uh, no he didn't do anything wrong, we just felt that we didn't need him anymore."
More hushed Korean conversations.
"We will only sign the contract if Mr. K is part of these final negotiations."
Exit one MIC executive running to phone Mr. K.
MIC executive on phone, "Mr. K, hey, it's Bob form the MIC Corporation, how's it going? Look we need you back as soon as possible, like today, like right now, how soon can you fly here?...Yeah, the Koreans won't sign without you on the team...What? the pay? Man, name your figure, we're in a pickle!"
And so Mr. K went back to work for the MIC, but this time as a contract employee making more for his part time work than he had as a full time employee. Seems the South Koreans were big on consistency and honoring the man who shook your hand.
I took this tale with a grain of salt when my friend first told it to me thirty years ago, but his mother and father both said it was true (with laughing eyes and a bit of a smirk). And another friend who had done some corporate work in South Korea agreed that they're big on honor like the Japanese. They like to negotiate with known people who have built relationships with them.
After 20+ years in the US Army Intelligence (I know, it's an oxymoron) Mr. "K" went to work for a big military industrial complex company. Mr. K had specialized in the Asian / East Asian sphere of military intelligence.
Years later that company was making arrangements to sell some aircraft to South Korea. Mr. "K", as an "expert" in Asian culture did a whole lot of the work on the the initial deal and negotiations. He knew a lot about Korean business models, made close relationships with the decision makers, and worked his butt off to make the deal.
Once the deal was in the works (hand shake agreement?), but NOT signed off with any contract, the big military company gave Mr. K the sack. "thank you for your work on the project, we don't need you anymore"
Mr. K started a franchise business. He couldn't be beat down.
When the day came for the contract to be signed the chief negotiator for the Korean government asked "Where is Mr. K?"
Military Industrial Complex guy: "Uh, he's no longer with us. But we don't need him. Please sign the contract."
Hushed Korean voices as the potential buyers clustered together.....long pause of silence from the MIC boys.
"Did Mr. K do anything wrong? Did he leave of his own accord?"
MIC guys, now getting warm under the collar, "ummm, uh, no he didn't do anything wrong, we just felt that we didn't need him anymore."
More hushed Korean conversations.
"We will only sign the contract if Mr. K is part of these final negotiations."
Exit one MIC executive running to phone Mr. K.
MIC executive on phone, "Mr. K, hey, it's Bob form the MIC Corporation, how's it going? Look we need you back as soon as possible, like today, like right now, how soon can you fly here?...Yeah, the Koreans won't sign without you on the team...What? the pay? Man, name your figure, we're in a pickle!"
And so Mr. K went back to work for the MIC, but this time as a contract employee making more for his part time work than he had as a full time employee. Seems the South Koreans were big on consistency and honoring the man who shook your hand.
I took this tale with a grain of salt when my friend first told it to me thirty years ago, but his mother and father both said it was true (with laughing eyes and a bit of a smirk). And another friend who had done some corporate work in South Korea agreed that they're big on honor like the Japanese. They like to negotiate with known people who have built relationships with them.
Bumping this thread for an update.
To be honest, I wasn't "that" interested at first and I wasn't very surprised when things didn't go anywhere. Now that some more time has passed, there has been a good bit of turnover in management, and they have reached out to me for the third time. I went in today and officially excepted the offer.
I say "they" but really it was the current manager that I will be working under. He wasn't my manager when I was there, but someone I have known for a good while because he was one of my wholesale customers. He won't be the perfect boss, but he's consistent and I know what I'm getting. I can't say that about my current bosses.
Wish me luck!
To be honest, I wasn't "that" interested at first and I wasn't very surprised when things didn't go anywhere. Now that some more time has passed, there has been a good bit of turnover in management, and they have reached out to me for the third time. I went in today and officially excepted the offer.
I say "they" but really it was the current manager that I will be working under. He wasn't my manager when I was there, but someone I have known for a good while because he was one of my wholesale customers. He won't be the perfect boss, but he's consistent and I know what I'm getting. I can't say that about my current bosses.
Wish me luck!
