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  1. yet another one

    i dont think they chose to side with the ATF.. i think its that they realize the gravity of the new rule, and know they could easily be held liable.. if the promoters are willing to give up revenue from private sale tables and attendees selling their personal property... i think its telling as...

  2. yet another one

    it was Russ. he talked Bambi and them and canceled his tables.. i dont think they have updated yet because its still in the "grace" period... the expo will be after the 30 days...

  3. yet another one

    well said.. the rule restates the law in a way that gives more range of assumption. if i am he ATF and i assume you broke the rule that re enforces a the law...the burden of proof is on you.. you will need to 1 bail/bond out of jail. 2 spend a erroneous amount of money on your defense, 3 if you...

  4. yet another one

    yep.. but in all the others you said "no change". you were almost/sorta condescending in your explanations... but this is defiantly a major issue and the "rule" has affected traders and ALL gun owners... this is not a read or lack there of into the rule. this is the rule you have said will not...

  5. yet another one

    so the expo gun show is not allowing private sales.. no carrying in anything, only ffl sales... so for everyone saying this wont affect anything, wrong... you could still sale if you had a ffl do a 4473. but thay have been told atf will be at the show patrolling for private sales... not sure...

  6. Getting rid of majority of collection & ATF new rule

    if you are saying that to me... i am saying that you may be innocent till proven guilty. but that does not promise you the benefits of the legal system.. the tax payer funded legal team will bring a limitless pocket book against whatever representation you can afford.. in the end if you can...

  7. Getting rid of majority of collection & ATF new rule

    tell that to Trump and any of the Jan 6th people...its not the "innocent till proven guilty" that anyone is worried about. its the cost involved in proving innocents. its very simple... when law abiding people wish to own, sell, or trade their property...and that property is a firearm, the proof...

  8. Getting rid of majority of collection & ATF new rule

    yep so why the new rule? we know you cant buy a gun and flip it.. so why now give the burden of proving you did not? i have traded around to change up and grow my collection, but now the burden of proof will be on me to prove i did not buy to sell, or sell too many, or sell too soon, or sell...

  9. Getting rid of majority of collection & ATF new rule

    but your counting on the atf to be reasonable.. thats like hoping the stray dog foaming at the mouth wont bite you when you try and hand him a hotdog...

  10. Getting rid of majority of collection & ATF new rule

    i have swapped guns around just to own them... these are guns i cant afford, but want to own/shoot for a little while...aka hobbyist... i have had a few high end ar's a 50 bmg kimber desert warrior a texas ranger sig desert eagle in 44 mag a few high end chassis rifles and a few others... as it...

  11. Getting rid of majority of collection & ATF new rule

    the problem is the guy who bought the python for 400 bucks. its been in the safe since God only knows when.. now its worth thousands... you cant deny he will make a profit on the sale... as far as intent to make a profit... how do you prove a negative? its like asking "when did you stop...
  12.

    Hotdog shaped hamburgers

    when my daughter was little i made little mice out of hamburger. we would have mice and mashed potatoes. sometimes i would make little ones and use rotini noodles for spaghetti.. she loved it and my wife hated it.. the dish was mice with caterpillars and blood...

  13. 18yo to buy a pistol? Riiiiiiight

    but you offered...or should i say butt, you offered....

  14. 18yo to buy a pistol? Riiiiiiight

    not really a right way. just a perfectly legal way. we can get into the laws(rules imposed with threat of punishment) but it allowed. the 18 yo cant buy from a ffl, but private is ok. but it all depends on you and your feelings... i know plenty of people i would not sell to. not because its...

  15. 18yo to buy a pistol? Riiiiiiight

    he wanted to buy a pistol...not go on a date...:becky:

  16. 18yo to buy a pistol? Riiiiiiight

    case by case but he can buy... but if the government questions a 18YO ability to own a pistol...they need to question ones ability to vote or join the service.. you are an adult or not.. its that simple....

  17. Motherfu***r, just had my first negligent discharge in my office of all places....

    it can happen to anyone anytime.. its better the cd's than a person... some ND"s end up with having another kid... so it could be worst...
  18.

    Corvette guys… show your rides

    it will get a ls for sure. but i have been looking around for a clunker with a 350/350 that i can chuck in it in a day or so..
  19.

    Central GA FS/FT Cheap truck guns

    may need to see ya on the tang....
  20.

    Corvette guys… show your rides

    no progress yet. but i will get a few pics this weekend.. the wagon will get first wrench. then the vette...unless i get a hair up my butt and for now drop a 350 turbo 350 in it..
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