10mm is pointless

[USMC - Lock and Load]

The way I see it ill take a 9mm , a .380, a .32 ACP anything over having nothing. Someone who feels a 9mm wont do it should really hit the range more often. All about shot placement. A chest shot with a 9mm beats a flat out miss with a 500 s&w magnum anyday.

Don't get me wrong. I've got 'em both. More firepower...? Use the 9mm. Better knockdown...? Use the 45. You have the "both of same worlds" with the 9MM in Black Talon!

 

[Laxguy59]

Don't get me wrong. I've got 'em both. More firepower...? Use the 9mm. Better knockdown...? Use the 45. You have the "both of same worlds" with the 9MM in Black Talon!

Some of the benefits of "oddballs" (which are only odd becuase they are newer and no one wants to go out and buy all new guns), are not simply terminal ballistics. .357 sig has a huge benefit of better penetration and straight shooting shrough automobile glass, while .40 often stops in it and 9mm is know to wildly redirect itself after exiting it. Not sure how 10mm stands up to auto glass, but just defending odd balls here.

 

[Cigar Dave]

It may have been said in a previous post but I only grazed over them.
Any ammo is pointless if you can't hit with it; any ammo is deadly if you can hit with it.

 

[NWSharpshooter]

No offense NW, but I hardly tell a difference with my .357sigs (33, 31)then with any 9(17) or .40(22) glock, my double taps hit the chest at numerous and reasonably lengthy distances with all 3, the only one I have trouble with is .45(XD), not sure why but I get shots off slower with those, probably because I rarely shoot 45 but have put well over 1k rounds downrange from .357's and 40's. If you can handle it effectively, go big, if not go the most you can handle, no reason to sell yourself short in size or velocity unless it gives you some sort of advantage to downsize.

Could have been the platforms I was shooting them in, I don't know.
.40 was a Beretta 96
.357 Sig was a SigPro 2340
.10MM was my Glock 20

Honestly if I practiced with them more, I may have gotten better, but the fact of the matter is I can afford to be excellent with a 9mm, where the extra cost of those cartridges limits my range time.

 

[USMC - Lock and Load]

If you have a 40MM grenade launcher, you won't have to let anybody get close enough to worry about handgun calibers! Just sayin'......View attachment 87026

 

[NWSharpshooter]

If you have a 40MM grenade launcher, you won't have to let anybody get close enough to worry about handgun calibers! Just sayin'......View attachment 87026

Amen.

 

[jwhited]

Why do people insist on carrying a .45 Schofield? It's the alcoholic step father of the .45 Long Colt (equally pointless).

 

[Vman]

This is the way I see it.


With a 9mm I can put two rounds center mass, in less than a second with both rounds touching. An effective double tap
With a 45acp I can put two rounds center mass, in less than a second with 4-6 inches of spread. An effective double tap, however not as good as a 9mm. My time is considerably slower between shots as well.
With 40, 10mm and 357sig, I can put one round center mass in less than a second, with the second round of the double tap not even on the target. Not a safe or effective double tap.

In a defensive situation, more than likely I am going to shoot until the threat is down. 9mm ensures me that my rounds will all hit target, and not the little old lady behind and to the left of the target.


That said, I grew up in New Mexico and I LOVE predator hunting. Yotes, bobcat, mountain lion and bear were the main things I hunted. I carried a Glock 20 with me everytime I went into the woods for the stopping power and capacity it offered me against a bear.

Now THAT is a sensible and one of the best statements I've heard. I'm sure I've heard it in some form or part with the endless caliber debates that go on but that really made things clear to me!

 

[Laxguy59]

Could have been the platforms I was shooting them in, I don't know.
.40 was a Beretta 96
.357 Sig was a SigPro 2340
.10MM was my Glock 20

Honestly if I practiced with them more, I may have gotten better, but the fact of the matter is I can afford to be excellent with a 9mm, where the extra cost of those cartridges limits my range time.

you know what they say

"You get what you pay for..."

 

[trader Ron]

i think this thread is pointless, people that don't do nuffins but run there mouth about **** and never post guns for sale or trade any f ing thing is pointless , bla bla bla ,,,lol,,