I agree. I was just responding to the post saying 22lr is a worthless round only good for training small disabled children and didn't understand why anyone would buy it in bulk.Gonna totally derail here for a second, but no way in he'll am I going to daily carry a .22 or pick up a .22 instead of my home Def shotgun. A brick will probably kill you if thrown with sufficient force at 20 yards and a knife is the best cc weapon within arms reach. I got a .22Sr I'll swap you for a quality 1911 or a nice German made 9mm.