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30-30 or 45/70

They are both fine in the brush, but don't think either one will "plow" through branches unaffected. Don't aim for sticks and twigs.

Anyway, the 30-30 is fine for whitetails. Take the 45-70 for anything larger.
 
When I hear the term "brush gun" I think of a shorter/handier rifle, not something to plow through tree limbs and bushes. My Marlin Guide Gun in .45-70 is a shorter rifle than my sons Marlin .30-30 but ammo costs more and some ammo kicks like a freakin' mule! It is however very accurate, I busted a 16oz. water bottle at 125 yds. with iron sights just propping it against a tree. Nothing like big bore shoulder bruising loud ass BOOM! LOL
 
They both will do the job.

If you are hunting deer/ bear take the 45-70 in bear country... Just deer then the 30-30 will do just fine.

Shot placement is everything but there is a much better chance your deer will drop right there when you shoot with the 45-70.

One good thing about the ODT is you can buy both, try them both out and if you like one better than the other you will have no problem selling either one here quickly since they are both popular rifles, especially pre remington made ones with the JM stamp.
 
How bout a 444 ? I have a nice JM marlin 444ss for sale :-)
Had one of these in my 20's ( many moons ago!) & it is indeed one of the finer oft overlooked hunting rifle/caliber combinations. Handloaders, as with the .45-70 are in for very pleasant treats with this. Like me, you may , one day, wish you still had it in your safe.
 
I used to own a Marlin 1895 Guide Gun in 45-70 Govt. Killed a lot of deer with it in the 12 years I owned it. I reloaded for it from the start due to the high cost of ammo. I cut cost even more by casting my own bullets.

I started haveing shoulder problems and the recoil of the 45-70 wasn't as much fun anymore, so I bought a Marlin in 30-30.
What I've found out is... the 30-30 kills em just as dead, just as quick as the 45-70 ever did.

I've kind of split the difference now, and have been using a Marlin 336 in .35 Remington. It has no more recoil than the 30-30 but some claim a little more punch.
 
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