Acog clones

[Cartman]

Might as well go buy a fake Rolex while your at it. And don't forget to buy your wife that fake Louis Vuitton purse. They will match that fake ACOG very well. Don't be crying when that crap falls apart. It amazes me that people will buy fake goods just to look like the real thing. Good luck.

 

[spencer60]

A year or so I picked up an EOTech clone. I wasn't even aware that's what it was, just thought it looked cool, and ordered it for an M&P 15-22. I was stunned when it showed up marked as an actual EOTech, factory box and everything. The only concession to trademark law was a piece of black masking tape over the EOTech name on the box (easily removed).

It actually worked fine on the 22 for about 6 months or so. Then I needed a red-dot for the new railed upper on my CZ-58 (7.62x39), so I swapped it over to that. Needless to say, it didn't last the first range session.

Will 223 recoil break one of these? Don't know, but they are definitely designed for airsoft and 22LR at most. But even if it doesn't break, it'll probably be so inaccurate past 25 yards that it's not going to matter.

The 'glass' on these is basically window glass, and they 'hold' their zero using the friction of the screws and the weight of the LED assembly (I took my busted one apart). If you are doing indoor-range stuff it'll probably put you on paper, but that's going to be it.

As for the legality of the whole thing... your call on that.

Trademark law is to protect the 'brand' of the owner, not the true intellectual property (sorry to any marketing folks out there). It would be different (IMHO) if they were actually stealing that patented 'guts' of an EOTech or AGOC, not just the external shape and box markings.

It does create some confusion, and if you try and sell one of these as the real thing you should absolutely be prosecuted, but for fraud... not violating trademarks.

That being said, every popular group has it's 'tribute bands' that do their best to imitate them exactly. Same with food, phones, clothes, etc., etc., etc. There's a lot of truth to the saying that 'imitation is the sincerest form of flattery'.

 

[The Russian]

A year or so I picked up an EOTech clone. I wasn't even aware that's what it was, just thought it looked cool, and ordered it for an M&P 15-22. I was stunned when it showed up marked as an actual EOTech, factory box and everything. The only concession to trademark law was a piece of black masking tape over the EOTech name on the box (easily removed).

It actually worked fine on the 22 for about 6 months or so. Then I needed a red-dot for the new railed upper on my CZ-58 (7.62x39), so I swapped it over to that. Needless to say, it didn't last the first range session.

Will 223 recoil break one of these? Don't know, but they are definitely designed for airsoft and 22LR at most. But even if it doesn't break, it'll probably be so inaccurate past 25 yards that it's not going to matter.

The 'glass' on these is basically window glass, and they 'hold' their zero using the friction of the screws and the weight of the LED assembly (I took my busted one apart). If you are doing indoor-range stuff it'll probably put you on paper, but that's going to be it.

As for the legality of the whole thing... your call on that.

Trademark law is to protect the 'brand' of the owner, not the true intellectual property (sorry to any marketing folks out there). It would be different (IMHO) if they were actually stealing that patented 'guts' of an EOTech or AGOC, not just the external shape and box markings.

It does create some confusion, and if you try and sell one of these as the real thing you should absolutely be prosecuted, but for fraud... not violating trademarks.

That being said, every popular group has it's 'tribute bands' that do their best to imitate them exactly. Same with food, phones, clothes, etc., etc., etc. There's a lot of truth to the saying that 'imitation is the sincerest form of flattery'.

Finally someone's comment relates to my original question. As for the others, most facogs get shipped without trades, I'm also not shelling out $1100 on an optic for an $800 rifle.

 

[batoncolle]

Have you looked at the Lucid HD7? It looks similar to the ACOG, costs about the same as the one in your OP, and they get very good reviews.

 

[Cartman]

It makes a lot of sense to have a nice rifle with POS optics.

 

[batoncolle]

It makes a lot of sense to have a nice rifle with POS optics.

Retracted. I see you said POS optics.

 

[captdave77]

For the most part, I would rather use iron sights than cheap optics. I tried NcStar (crap), Lucid, and some others but did not care for them. I like my Acog ok and Aimpionts have always been good to me. I still enjoy zeroing a rifle's irons and plinking.

 

[Cartman]

Have at it then... I will stick with my REAL acog.

 

[Cartman]

Thats like buying a Corvette then putting a 4 cylinder in it.

 

[FrogMan]

So I'm making an m16a4 clone and I have everything except the Acog to finish off the look. I know I've seen a few facogs on here before but the Chinese are getting really good at cloning stuff. Most of the low end optics on the market are made in china now anyway, like Vortex, Burris, Aim, UTG, Primary arms, etc... I was wondering if anyone has any experience with the newest (last year or so) Acog clones with the RMR clone on top. http://www.ebay.com/itm/281221295310?ssPageName=STRK:MEBOFFX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1427.l2649

Its obviously a big gamble, but its only 10% the cost of a real one. Its mainly going to be a range toy to complete the desired look on my rifle. What do you guys think about it?

I love that the seller is called Canada best product and ships from China anyway its probably fine for a range toy, after all the 223 round does not have much recoil.