Bullet ID help

[brownbmo]

My Father in Law gave me all of his loading supplies. In going through the boxes I came a cross a box of these bullets in an unmarked box.
Can you help identify the application? The base measures .308 and the length is .9 inches. I thought it was for a 30 carbine but the weight is 150 grams. That seems heavy for 30 carbine.
It seems to fit the 30 carbine casings he left me though.

 

[medium187mph]

My guess is 150gr SP for a 30-30

 

[brownbmo]

That’s possible. That’s one of the few die sets and brass he didn’t give me. Thanks.

 

[Jackie Graham]

150 flat nose soft point. Usually used in 30 cal lever action with a tube magazine like a 30-30. They can be loaded for most any 30 cal gun.

 

[brownbmo]

Thank you, a 30-30 is it I think. I had a few 30-30 casings and it matches up well. Maybe I’ll come across a die set and brass at some point to use them.
I have a mint 1966 Marlin 336, but rarely shoot it. Thanks all for the quick clarification.

 

[BHPSteel]

As Jackie Graham notes - 150gr is a respectable projectile for many 30 caliber rifles. I load bullets similar to that (without a cannelure) for my M1 Garand in 30-06.

 

[brownbmo]

As Jackie Graham notes - 150gr is a respectable projectile for many 30 caliber rifles. I load bullets similar to that (without a cannelure) for my M1 Garand in 30-06.

I also have a few hundred of these bullets that were marked 30/06 and are just under 150 G.
I haven’t loaded any rifle rounds yet, but these and the soft nose bullets slide into used 30-06 brass with only light resistance.
Is that correct? Will the brass crimp down during the de capping step?
If so how much and what type of powder do you add for Garand 150G shooting? I have many types of powders to use. Thanks! .

 

[BHPSteel]

You don't have to use boat-tails for 30-06, but the correct bullet diameter for the 30-06 is .308in, so if they're sliding into the necks on 30-06 brass, I think your problem is more that you need to resize your brass first to get that neck diameter down. Try plunking a piece of that fired brass in the chamber of your rifle. If it doesn't slide right in with no resistance, it hasn't been resized - and frankly, even if it does plunk straight in, it's important to get the brass to a 'known state'.

Also - even if you don't use a crimp, the tension in the neck should be sufficient to hold the bullet in place when you seat it, and should be tightly enough in place that you can't pull the bullet out by hand.

Powders - best place for that would be a proper reloading manual, or https://hodgdonreloading.com/rldc/?t=1. There will be recipes there specifically for "M1 Garand Service Rifle" because you want to avoid putting modern-specification 30-06 ammo thru' a Garand.

It might be an idea to get a reloading manual (I like the Lyman 51st edition) because it also covers many of the techniques used in reloading, and even though I've consumed a lot of theory and now have also accumulated some practice, every time I look at those notes, I learn something more or see something thought-provoking)

Anyway.

150gr is considered a 'light bullet' for the Garand - just how far under 150gr are they? Powders? I like using IMR 4064 when I can get it, and Varget when I can't.

As always, if you're intending to reload routinely for the guns, start at the low load, don't exceed the maximum load, and while you're working out what load you and your gun likes, check brass after firing for signs of overpressure.

 

[1006]

147 is a typical Garand bullet.

 

[wolfmanrogers]

My Father in Law gave me all of his loading supplies. In going through the boxes I came a cross a box of these bullets in an unmarked box.
Can you help identify the application? The base measures .308 and the length is .9 inches. I thought it was for a 30 carbine but the weight is 150 grams. That seems heavy for 30 carbine.
It seems to fit the 30 carbine casings he left me though.

Are you sure that's a 2300 grain bullet?