14 gauge body steel and 500 pounds make this a locking box, not a safe.
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Cannon safe
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Guys like @ruger762 and myself could open almost any safe with a 1/4 drill bit...
" Almost any safe can be gotten into with a fire axe and enough time... Even your 2000 or 3000 pounders."
(Seconds vs hours, mabye days...)
AGREE 100% "the bad guys don't care about treating your safe nicely when they are robbing you. (Or your house) bolt it down, and hide your axes and tools."(Last thing you want is for them to TAKE your safe because at that point they have all the time in the world.)
"Bad guys will always find a way... if we make it easy for them." (I can't streess how important a good alarm system is)
Agree but...they will keep 90% of honest people honest and if someone really wants in, they will find away.
There are only 2 or 3 safe makers that make true theft lock TL-30 safes rated by the under writers lab. they are designed to resist an attack with tools for the rated time. And liberty and browning are not in that group. Liberty, browning, cannon, winchester etc all make (rsc) residental security containers. Just metal boxes with a lock. All you will find are rsc containers at box stores. If you want true rated safes you need to go to safe store Local or on line. And under writers lab also has certified fire ratings and most of rcs makers ratings are are not certified. Just want they claim in there testing. If you just want something to keep your guns locked up, most any rsc will work. But if you have a large collection or investment then you need to think about a TL-30 or higher rated safe with a ul certifed fire rating.
Yeah, I'd like to know if there's a way to stop that, too. Though presumably that greatly increases the cost of dealing with a lockout.
But let me ask you a rather direct question: Can someone with your skills do that on any safe, upon encountering it-- or only after conferring with the manufacturer and finding out the exact spot for the hole? (Or doing some sort of research beyond what the layman has access to?) I'm fine with that!
Also... how often do the bad guys have those skills? It certainly doesn't make the news-- but I would expect the victims prefer it that way.
But let me ask you a rather direct question: Can someone with your skills do that on any safe, upon encountering it-- or only after conferring with the manufacturer and finding out the exact spot for the hole? (Or doing some sort of research beyond what the layman has access to?) I'm fine with that!
Also... how often do the bad guys have those skills? It certainly doesn't make the news-- but I would expect the victims prefer it that way.
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I've had a safe for forty+ years....never have I had a "lockout" . Then again, I only have the manual dial. Not an electronic one. My dad had a safe older than mine, now my brother has it...never locked out of that one either. Never seen a dial failure. Of course I ain't saying it Dosent happen.
No stopping a true professional attack but are extremely uncommon... Most drill points can be found by doing some simple research online, doesn't mean the avg. Joe would or could get it open and how fast.
Honestly guys it really just depends on the safe...
