Do you incorporate "searching & scanning" into your shooting exercises?

[shaneadams90]

I do. You know why!
Pen
Knife
Flashlight

Monte drills this in his classes to a very good degree. It makes sense. Even more so when you realize you are the last in the class to realize there is a man behind you with a knife. Drives the point home.

 

[protective measures]

I do. You know why!
Pen
Knife
Flashlight

Monte drills this in his classes to a very good degree. It makes sense. Even more so when you realize you are the last in the class to realize there is a man behind you with a knife. Drives the point home.

You've come a long way since then... I'd be afraid to do that in class w/ you now.

What did you shoot at the GSSF match last week?

 

[Exile]

Other than dry fire practice in the home environment, where can a person go to practice this way? I have taken a couple of basic courses and plan to move on to intermediate and advanced courses as well but a couple of days of this isn't going to be adequate to make it "automatic". I can't even draw and fire at any range I have been to, much less drop to a knee/scan a room or shoot off axis at all. So right now I am getting pretty well prepared to violently defend myself against pieces of paper directly in front of me at close to moderate range.

 

[shaneadams90]

You've come a long way since then... I'd be afraid to do that in class w/ you now.

What did you shoot at the GSSF match last week?

It was the "Advanced Course" according to the RSO..

target 1
10 shots at 30'
10 @ 74'

target 2
10 @ 74'
10 @ 40'
10 @ 21'
*all shots taken at 15 seconds or less..
First string was 371- I was JACKED about shooting and nerves got me
2nd string was 434
3rd was 456..

Overall I was pleased..out of 150 shots I only had 3 that didnt score and that was on my first string...

 

[TattooedGunner]

Yes.

Shoot threat to ground
Check threat
Compressed ready
Check left and right
Position sul
Step forward
360 degree turn and scan
Check self
Reload

That's the short, I don't feel like typing it all out in detail version.

 

[TattooedGunner]

Also this article is super long but great material that covers from before the fight all the way through after the fight:

http://www.warriortalk.com/showthread.php?90849-Dealing-with-PESTS

 

[protective measures]

Yes.

Shoot threat to ground
Check threat
Compressed ready
Check left and right
Position sul
Step forward
360 degree turn and scan
Check self
Reload

That's the short, I don't feel like typing it all out in detail version.

I like it all except for stepping forward toward a threat whom I've just shot and turning my back to them.
Plus to a responding officer it might seem as if you had just shot one person & were looking for more victims.

The "orbiting" technique Randy mentions is more tactically sound to me.
When he came & taught at our range as a guest Instructor it was a long day so I didn't get to ask what the thought was behind that approach.

 

[rock1967]

Other than dry fire practice in the home environment, where can a person go to practice this way? I have taken a couple of basic courses and plan to move on to intermediate and advanced courses as well but a couple of days of this isn't going to be adequate to make it "automatic". I can't even draw and fire at any range I have been to, much less drop to a knee/scan a room or shoot off axis at all. So right now I am getting pretty well prepared to violently defend myself against pieces of paper directly in front of me at close to moderate range.

I agree I can defend great against a piece of paper at 7 yards.
Also want my wife to be able to draw from purse and practice on 2 targets.

 

[TattooedGunner]

I like it all except for stepping forward toward a threat whom I've just shot and turning my back to them.
Plus to a responding officer it might seem as if you had just shot one person & were looking for more victims.

The "orbiting" technique Randy mentions is more tactically sound to me.
When he came & taught at our range as a guest Instructor it was a long day so I didn't get to ask what the thought was behind that approach.

The way I understand it, the step forward is so when you turn you are on ground that you have previously seen and aren't stepping back onto a rock or something and trip.

I have only seen the orbiting technique used pre and during fight as he teaches in his PESTS EAT FAST lecture.

Unfortunately I have not been able to make it to his higher level classes so I do not know how he teaches it past what I have seen.

 

[protective measures]

The way I understand it, the step forward is so when you turn you are on ground that you have previously seen and aren't stepping back onto a rock or something and trip.

I have only seen the orbiting technique used pre and during fight as he teaches in his PESTS EAT FAST lecture.

Unfortunately I have not been able to make it to his higher level classes so I do not know how he teaches it past what I have seen.

Thanks for the input. We've spoken at length about several different topics but not this one.
I'll have to ask him for more clarification as to their thought process on that.

Aggressively moving off the X I get & teach.

Stepping toward a threat that I've just shot & turning my back to them I don't get.

Their content is most always tactical sound so I would like to hear the logic to that movement.