Dress code for open carry

[Bear44]

Bear,

I'm gonna be a little short and to the point here. I started carrying a gun some thirty three years ago and I carried for the the protection of my family, myself and our property. I started carrying long before I took any of my many oaths to protect liberties and public. As I have previously noted a couple of times already, I have also faced the "wolf" and know the cost of drawing that weapon. It is not because I assume that you are a newbie that I caution here, but because I know that there are newbies here that have not considered the price that may have to be paid. I try to paint them a picture of real life.

I know what my skill level is and what I can do. I, like some other here, shoot more in a month than many shoot in years. I don't shoot down a single ally lane because that won't prepare you for a practical situations. I have also been in a ambush situation whereby I had two guns and neither did me any good, so it amazes me when I see someone that is so sure of things. Now, see, I don't assume anything about you. You may be just as skilled as I, but the fact that you can't conceded that your way may be the best way for you but not for all tells me that you don't have the experience of maturity level that you claim to have. That is just my opinion. There is no "all around best way to carry." Different methods work for different people, just like there is no "best" gun to carry.

Most of the time I carry a 1911 or Springfield XD on my strong side hip, but sometimes the "best way" is a shoulder holster. My back up is almost always on the left ankle, but that is defiantly not the "best" place for it. The best place for me for the back up would probably be cross draw. You see, when maturity is reached, you teach a person to find what is "best" for them and not try to sell your way as best.

By the way, I read over the other thread and it seems that there have been some people that have chimed in that have some real world experiences in shooting. Some of them that have been the one to pull the trigger, some of them just know someone that did and know how hard it can be.

As for the girl........... I take these things on a case by case basis.

Luke

Luke,

Sorry man, but you are not getting the point, so I will be clear.

First: Where in any of this have I actually said that my way was the best way for everyone. That is an assumption that YOU made and I never did say it. Read my posts objectively. I am discussing my opinions, not making a blanket statement that my way is the best way for all people in all situations. I am simply arguing the case for concealed carry. After all, this is a "discussion" forum, isn't it?

Second: My response that I have the "right to say", is just that, defense of my right to say whatever as long as I don't break the forum rules. For me, the moment you said I did not have the right, it was no longer a matter of what was said, but the fact that you told me I had no right to say it. Why do you think it is OK to tell me that my right to speak my opinion should be curtailed. Even though you misquote what I actually said, what I was objecting to was that YOU think I should not have the right to say it. One more time, I have the "RIGHT" to say it and you have the "RIGHT" to disagree with it. What other opinions would you suppress because you don't agree with them?

One other small thing. You say that you started carrying a weapon to defend yourself, your family and your property. By Georgia law, it is illegal to use deadly force to protect property. It doesn't matter if you agree with the law or not, it is the law and I think the charge for killing someone for trying to steal your TV would be manslaughter or something similar. If you are worried about what inexperienced permit holders take away from this forum, lets not promote this common misconception. There are more than a few people that are doing hard time because they thought they were within there rights killing someone to protect their property.

I hope you come to the meet and great in January. I think you and I would get along a lot better in person. : ) We would have interesting discussions and probably enjoy them greatly.

 

[jsquared]

Sooo, about dressing up to open carry...

 

[Luke]

Luke,

Sorry man, but you are not getting the point, so I will be clear.

First: Where in any of this have I actually said that my way was the best way for everyone. That is an assumption that YOU made and I never did say it. Read my posts objectively. I am discussing my opinions, not making a blanket statement that my way is the best way for all people in all situations. I am simply arguing the case for concealed carry. After all, this is a "discussion" forum, isn't it?

Second: My response that I have the "right to say", is just that, defense of my right to say whatever as long as I don't break the forum rules. For me, the moment you said I did not have the right, it was no longer a matter of what was said, but the fact that you told me I had no right to say it. Why do you think it is OK to tell me that my right to speak my opinion should be curtailed. Even though you misquote what I actually said, what I was objecting to was that YOU think I should not have the right to say it. One more time, I have the "RIGHT" to say it and you have the "RIGHT" to disagree with it. What other opinions would you suppress because you don't agree with them?

One other small thing. You say that you started carrying a weapon to defend yourself, your family and your property. By Georgia law, it is illegal to use deadly force to protect property. It doesn't matter if you agree with the law or not, it is the law and I think the charge for killing someone for trying to steal your TV would be manslaughter or something similar. If you are worried about what inexperienced permit holders take away from this forum, lets not promote this common misconception. There are more than a few people that are doing hard time because they thought they were within there rights killing someone to protect their property.

I hope you come to the meet and great in January. I think you and I would get along a lot better in person. : ) We would have interesting discussions and probably enjoy them greatly.

Bear, we would probably get along much better in person. I'm not trying to be argumentative about your right to free speech or your rights to express your opinion on this forum. My objection came from the impression you gave in making the statement that your way was the best way. It read as tough it was a blanket statement and in my opinion no one, not even the great expert have to right to say there is only "one way." Now that we have cleared that up, I will admit that I hate to make comments when my time is brief or when frustrated because points can be hard to bring across here.

When I started carrying, when I was young, the law actually read that you had to the right to use deadly force if someone was violently entering or violently attempting to enter your home.... in other words if someone was beating down your door, you could infact shoot through the door to stop the entry. So you could protect your property. The laws that we have been quoting regarding the defense of a third person or yourself in a public area is not the measuring stick used to justified the use of deadly force within your home. There was a time when a man woudl have to retreat in his own home, but with "Castle" laws coming around, men have much more lead way in their home.

I hope, I can make January, but I'm not sure yet.

Luke

 

[95gAtl]

Why advertise?

I have different carry guns for different environments.

For summer clothes and/or best comfort, I carry the LCP 380. That gun is SOOOOO small, most times i have to check to see if I still have it. And for the folks that say the 380 is ineffective.... 1) it is better than my fist. 2) I don't know anyone that wants to get shot w/a 380. 3) it's much better than nothing at all.

For the times I need to venture into a less desirable area of town, it's a g26 or g30 and perhaps an extra mag or two.

Personally, I would NOT carry open b/c I do not want attention....either wanted attention OR unwanted. But that's me.

Merely my 2 cents

 

[yellowhammer]

I view open carry as wanting to show off your gun.I always carry where legal,but always concealed,therefore I have my own element of surprise.I didn`t get this view from reading books or mags,but from an occupation in where I had to be street-wise.CC allows me to carry while wearing anything from bib "overhauls" to a suit.I hate to dress up to go to a funeral,much less in order to tote a gun.

 

[Noyz]

I once carried into a Quik-E-Mart after getting off of work. I was wearing slacks, a button down, and a nice jacket. The clerk asked if I was a US Marshall or security or FBI/CIA agent. I choked on my vitamin water trying not to laugh when he asked me.

I agree with the James Bond guy.

(Note; I'm 21 yr old 5'8" and 145lbs soaking wet, but I guess I looked out of place when my lapel flew open and he saw my Sig in my shoulder rig)

 

[jsquared]

I decided to dress how I want to dress and carry how I want to carry and not worry what other people think, anti-gun or not. Thanks for the insight everyone.

 

[jloneill17]

I decided to dress how I want to dress and carry how I want to carry and not worry what other people think, anti-gun or not. Thanks for the insight everyone.

I think that's the best idea JJ. I carry for comfort. Depending up on the weather, jeans or shorts, long sleeve or short sleeve. I could care less if someone cares how I carry. That's their problem.

 

[brknbnes]

I always think it matters where you're at. I got a small pistol for total conceal, a big pistol for open carry and it can be hid under jackets this time of year. If I do want to open carry I really don't care what other people think, sometimes I'm dressed up but most times I'm in camo............be careful what you ask, you may not like the answer....

 

[jsquared]

The biggest deciding factor for me the reason behind my wanting to OC, which was because concealed carry didn't fit the way I dress. I would have a hard time trying to conceal an LCP in an IWB or pocket holster and still have it readily accessible.

So, I would have to modify the way I dress in order to CC. This led naturally to thinking if I was to OC if I would also have to modify the way I dress to appease the masses. In the end, I decided the way I dress is the way I dress. The upside to this is I got to stick with my favorite pistol and not get something minuscule (even though its still compact).

As far as OC vs CC goes, that has been talked about everywhere already. I didnt really want to get into it here but you can't bring up OC without people telling you it is wrong, so whatever