BEST MOVIE EVER! "that there's a black widder, boy".
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BEST MOVIE EVER! "that there's a black widder, boy".
I wholeheartedly agree. Some people act all tough when they have you outnumbered 10 to 1, but they are the politest people on earth when they don't have the numbers on their side. I know a few people like that. Quite pathetic really.
I used to own a Big Dog. SCSA probably was calling for AAA soon after you saw him. That bike was a POS. I was traveling down 400 headed to ESPN bike night and mine just shut down. In the middle of 400. During rush hour.
This thread should be closed. Since it is not...I'll carry on...
IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.
The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.
Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our Brittish brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.
We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.
IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.
The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.
He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.
He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.
He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.
He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.
He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.
He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:
For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences
For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:
For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.
He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.
He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.
He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.
In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.
He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.
He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.
He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.
He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.
He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:
For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences
For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:
For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.
He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.
He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.
He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.
Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our Brittish brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.
We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.
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Biker Patch Rules
If you are going to wear a biker patch, it pays to know something about biker patch rules and etiquette. The reason is simple: your actions will be reflected on all bikers in the area. This is true whether you are an Independent / Lone Wolf or belong to an MC (motorcycle club), RC (riding club) or MM (motorcycle ministry).
Read and Follow the Club Rules
All biker clubs have rules about how to wear the patch. You can avoid a lot of trouble by just following the club rules. If there is something you do not understand, clarify it with the club. Note: most clubs allow you to wear memorial patches anywhere on the vest but it is best to ask first.
If you are making a patch it is a good idea to get familiar with the patch designs used by clubs in your area. Show your intended patch design to the clubs (if there are too many in your area, just show it to the most dominant group).
When you get their approval, you can have it made. This isn’t really necessary, but it is a show of respect for the clubs.
Patches and Colors
Among traditional MCs, the patch is considered different from colors. In their view, the patches are the property of riding clubs and are bought (not earned). It is the colors that belong to the motorcycle club; the colors must be earned.
One of the most important biker patch rules to remember is that among MCs, the colors symbolize commitment. Keep this in mind when making a patch. Patches can mean various things to riding clubs and riders as well.
1 and 2 Piece Patches
The 1-piece patch usually represents a riding club, family club or social motorcycle club. Most 1-pecepaches are approved. The exceptions are when the logos are copied somewhere else or if the design is a lot like the local MC.
The 2-piece patch can mean different things. To be safe, make sure the designs do not infringe on their patches.
3 Piece Patches
This patch can mean the rider is part of an outlaw club or a traditional motorcycle club. In a three-piece patch, the top rocker must bear the club name. The center has the club patch and the bottom the territory.
Sometimes the bottom rocker has a saying or motto included. New MCs should not wear the three-piece patch. If your club wants to wear this patch, you need approval from the existing established MCs in your area.
Rockers
The rockers are the curved patches at the bottom and top. Riding clubs cannot wear them unless approved by the dominant riding club in the area. Social MCs and riding clubs should not claim territory by using the rockers. Do not sew the state name onto your vest or jacket without club approval.
These are the biker patch rules that new riders or clubs should be aware of. There are of course, other stipulations and regulations unique to an area. Get in touch with the local groups in your location just to be safe
Biker Patch Rules
If you are going to wear a biker patch, it pays to know something about biker patch rules and etiquette. The reason is simple: your actions will be reflected on all bikers in the area. This is true whether you are an Independent / Lone Wolf or belong to an MC (motorcycle club), RC (riding club) or MM (motorcycle ministry).
Read and Follow the Club Rules
All biker clubs have rules about how to wear the patch. You can avoid a lot of trouble by just following the club rules. If there is something you do not understand, clarify it with the club. Note: most clubs allow you to wear memorial patches anywhere on the vest but it is best to ask first.
If you are making a patch it is a good idea to get familiar with the patch designs used by clubs in your area. Show your intended patch design to the clubs (if there are too many in your area, just show it to the most dominant group).
When you get their approval, you can have it made. This isn’t really necessary, but it is a show of respect for the clubs.
Patches and Colors
Among traditional MCs, the patch is considered different from colors. In their view, the patches are the property of riding clubs and are bought (not earned). It is the colors that belong to the motorcycle club; the colors must be earned.
One of the most important biker patch rules to remember is that among MCs, the colors symbolize commitment. Keep this in mind when making a patch. Patches can mean various things to riding clubs and riders as well.
1 and 2 Piece Patches
The 1-piece patch usually represents a riding club, family club or social motorcycle club. Most 1-pecepaches are approved. The exceptions are when the logos are copied somewhere else or if the design is a lot like the local MC.
The 2-piece patch can mean different things. To be safe, make sure the designs do not infringe on their patches.
3 Piece Patches
This patch can mean the rider is part of an outlaw club or a traditional motorcycle club. In a three-piece patch, the top rocker must bear the club name. The center has the club patch and the bottom the territory.
Sometimes the bottom rocker has a saying or motto included. New MCs should not wear the three-piece patch. If your club wants to wear this patch, you need approval from the existing established MCs in your area.
Rockers
The rockers are the curved patches at the bottom and top. Riding clubs cannot wear them unless approved by the dominant riding club in the area. Social MCs and riding clubs should not claim territory by using the rockers. Do not sew the state name onto your vest or jacket without club approval.
These are the biker patch rules that new riders or clubs should be aware of. There are of course, other stipulations and regulations unique to an area. Get in touch with the local groups in your location just to be safe
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Bullies are ***s.
Bullies are ***s.
tldr.
Anybody care to provide cliff notes?
Anybody care to provide cliff notes?
I caught this kinda late but here are my 2 cents. Each one of you bashing a club (note, not a gang) that have never had any interactions with are no different than the liberals that hate guns and gun owners and have never owned a gun. You watch gangland and SOA and think you understand the MC world. Well if that's the case may be we should use Sons of Guns as an educational video for people who nothing about guns. Well now, that wouldn't shine a very good light on us would it?
As far as passing, on a 4 lane just move as far left/right as possible. Throw your hand up and wave as you pass. Now on a two lane just stay back a good distance. A pack ridding high and tight does not want you to pass due to safety reasons. They do not want you possibly putting their brothers in harms way. They are their brothers keeper and take that seriously. You can respect that I'm sure.
Before you go yelling about how they are drug dealers and thugs why don't you take the time to get to know one? You, as evil gun owners, should understand them more than most. If any of you guys have any further questions, feel free to ask. I MIGHT know a thing or two about that way of life.
As far as passing, on a 4 lane just move as far left/right as possible. Throw your hand up and wave as you pass. Now on a two lane just stay back a good distance. A pack ridding high and tight does not want you to pass due to safety reasons. They do not want you possibly putting their brothers in harms way. They are their brothers keeper and take that seriously. You can respect that I'm sure.
Before you go yelling about how they are drug dealers and thugs why don't you take the time to get to know one? You, as evil gun owners, should understand them more than most. If any of you guys have any further questions, feel free to ask. I MIGHT know a thing or two about that way of life.
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I haven't read anyone painting with a broad brush here. Every bashing post I've seen is specifically referring to dbags who think they are some Sons of Anarchy wannabe club and thing they are tough and try to intimidate other folks around them.
I honestly couldn't care less about a random biker or group of bikers on the road and I will leave them alone as long as they leave me alone
I honestly couldn't care less about a random biker or group of bikers on the road and I will leave them alone as long as they leave me alone
i dont hate them, i just think alot of the clubs are full of attention seeking cheese dicks (especially here in atlanta)
my uncle does iron butt rides with some of his vietnam buddies and they act nothing like what i described above (they just love riding).
i dont have a problem with group rides or clubs, im just going to call out the "LOOK AT ME" crowd for what they are
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