Father shoots 17 year old daughters BF in her bed. She told dad she didn't know him.

[Bear44]

That's a "chain of causation" argument that can get pretty in-depth and technical.

Did her lie cause her dad to pull the trigger and kill the kid, or did something else cause that (such as the kid's presumed movement after being told to stay still)?

It didn't actually cause him to pull the trigger, but it certainly failed to defuse a dangerous situation that the truth would have immediately done.

 

[dsp]

That's actually a possibility. I'm not sure what she would be charged with, but her lie directly caused this kids death.

Yes, but I'm sure that "lie" will easily be altered/translated into fear (getting caught with a lowlife punk ass)

 

[Bear44]

If ifs and buts were candies and nuts we'd all have a merry christmas

And you've called MY posts moronic! LMAO!

 

[Bear44]

given those 3 things are true

and he didnt have to sneak in if the daughter let him in (sneaking in implies that no one knew he was there or what he was doing, the daughter is old enough and INVITED him.....ergo the issue)

Nope. He had to sneak in to avoid daddy. Just because the daughter was part of that doesn't mean he walked in and said "Hi, I'm here to **** your daughter. Hope we don't keep you awake."

 

[ARCman47]

If ifs and buts were candies and nuts we'd all have a merry christmas

Nah just really bad bowel movements.

 

[Bear44]

I'm just stirring the pot, but isn't that really the whole argument? Just because he had the right to shoot an uninvited person in his home, did the situation warrant it? Does the Castle Doctrine care about circumstances other than the fact that there was an uninvited [by him] guest in his home, hence, an intruder?

Guys, all the castle doctrine and stand your ground does is remove the requirement to retreat safely if you can. It does not change the basic requirements for justifiable homicide.

 

[Bear44]

Yes, but I'm sure that "lie" will easily be altered/translated into fear (getting caught with a lowlife punk ass)

Does it matter?

 

[dsp]

Does it matter?

Not anymore LOL

 

[GeauxLSU]

That's actually a possibility. I'm not sure what she would be charged with, but her lie directly caused this kids death.

Only thing I can think of is perhaps wreckless conduct.

 

[sami weinbergstein]

maybe it is one of those guns that "went off by itself"