Father shoots 17 year old daughters BF in her bed. She told dad she didn't know him.

[doubleeaglefan]

The good news for the father is the police didn't charge him. He might have a chance. The daughter...she is an awful human being.

 

[Bulldawg165]

I get that. Take a deep breath. He is informed by child 1 a stranger is in his daughter's room. He goes into said room armed (as would I) and daughter IN THAT ROOM contends she doesn't know stranger. Daddy tells 'stranger' not to move. Stranger moves, daddy shoots (as would I). Daughter AFTER THE FACT fesses up. Case closed. Daddy is innocent if that account is accurate. Stupid floosey daughter... pending.

1. There is no proof whatsoever that the kid actually moved, although that's a pretty obvious alibi for anyone in the father's situation
2. How can you say the father "reasonably believed" his daughter was being raped when A) there were no signs of forced entry to the house/bedroom, B) there were no marks on daughter indicating a physical struggle, C) there were no torn clothes which indicates her clothes were willfully removed, and D) there were no audible pleas for help from the daughter when there were multiple other people in the house and she only played damsel in distress upon getting caught.

I think I'm making pretty safe assumptions for all of the points mentioned in point 2 considering all of this information would have likely been on the police report and thus readily available to the reporters along with the info they already put in the story.

 

[GeauxLSU]

Didn't the dad already know that half that statement was a lie?

The dad, and everybody else figured out a lot after the fact. In that moment, the shoot seems perfectly reasonable (as laid out... no pun intended).

 

[WC1911guy]

I'll bet the father does get charged at some point. Once they dig up the daughter had a history of this type of behavior and the Father was aware of it then it turns into a "I told you to stay away from my daughter" scenario. I'd bet a million dollars there is a long history of the daughter causing problems and the parents were very aware of it. That completely changes the "her life was in danger" position he's taking.

16 year old girls don't sneak 17 year old boys into heir rooms at night with the family home on a whim. I just don't buy it.

 

[NGIB]

"Dad, don't shoot he's my boyfriend."

Since she chose not to say that, she is 100% responsible for the results...

 

[GeauxLSU]

1. There is no proof whatsoever that the kid actually moved, although that's a pretty obvious alibi for anyone in the father's situation
2. How can you say the father "reasonably believed" his daughter was being raped when A) there were no signs of forced entry to the house/bedroom, B) there were no marks on daughter indicating a physical struggle, C) there were no torn clothes which indicates her clothes were willfully removed, and D) there were no audible pleas for help from the daughter when there were multiple other people in the house and she only played damsel in distress upon getting caught.

I think I'm making pretty safe assumptions for all of the points mentioned in point 2 considering all of this information would have likely been on the police report and thus readily available to the reporters along with the info they already put in the story.

Where in the world did you read all that?!?! Who has even mentioned the word rape?
Are you a parent? Have you ever got up armed to go address something that goes bump in the night?
How in the world would the father even know your A, B, or C in that one moment? Regarding D how plausible would it be for a gun man to say "You make a sound, you die"?
I'm not going to argue this with any Monday morning QB's. I think it's been said ad nauseum that if the circumstances were AS STATED, the shoot is justifiable.

 

[Bulldawg165]

Where in the world did you read all that?!?! Who has even mentioned the word rape?
Are you a parent? Have you ever got up armed to go address something that goes bump in the night?
How in the world would the father even know your A, B, or C in that one moment? Regarding D how plausible would it be for a gun man to say "You make a sound, you die"?
I'm not going to argue this with any Monday morning QB's. I think it's been said ad nauseum that if the circumstances were AS STATED, the shoot is justifiable.

The article didn't mention any of that so I'm assuming it didn't happen since if it did it would be in the police report. And considering that he was in her bedroom with his daughter I think B and C would be unbelievably obvious

And given how things are AS STATED, there is no evidence to support A) forced entry into the home, B) physical marks on the daughter to indicate a struggle, C) torn clothes indicating a struggle, and D) audible pleas from the daughter.

Without any of that I cannot see how he reasonably thought anyone's life was in danger. Sorry, but this is a no brainer and there's no monday morning QB'ing required here. You're essentially saying that your kid can let someone into your home and you can blow their brains out as long as your kid at first tells you they don't know them. Wow.

 

[Bear44]

OK, lets break this down.

1. There is no proof whatsoever that the kid actually moved, although that's a pretty obvious alibi for anyone in the father's situation
Meaningless.

2. How can you say the father "reasonably believed" his daughter was being raped when A) there were no signs of forced entry to the house/bedroom, B) there were no marks on daughter indicating a physical struggle, C) there were no torn clothes which indicates her clothes were willfully removed, and D) there were no audible pleas for help from the daughter when there were multiple other people in the house and she only played damsel in distress upon getting caught.
The very fact that she did not cry out would tend to make me believe that she was under serious threat of death, which would reinforce the idea the guy was armed. And you would actually expect dad to do a crime scene investigation while holding a strange man in his daughter's room at gun point!!!???

I think I'm making pretty safe assumptions for all of the points mentioned in point 2 considering all of this information would have likely been on the police report and thus readily available to the reporters along with the info they already put in the story.

Any reasonable father starts any investigation into what's going on in a situation like this with the words "DON'T MOVE!", which is what he did. The man should have listened.

 

[Bulldawg165]

OK, lets break this down.


Any reasonable father starts any investigation into what's going on in a situation like this with the words "DON'T MOVE!", which is what he did. The man should have listened.

lol ok dude. let's all pretend he had a gun even though there is no evidence whatsoever to support it. It's not like it would've been in the police report or anything

 

[Cartman]

Well, he will not be doing that to anybody elses daughter now.