Is this an ODT member that was charged?

[Bryan]

Damn, we have some straight up sheeple on this board, comply the next time you are asked "Papers please!" The man broke no laws. His rights were violated by a scared little security guard and some LEOs that need to be schooled on Ga. Firearm law. Rights are like muscles, they need to be flexed from time to time or you will lose them.

Granted he did do nothing against the law. The security guard was wrong. But I think he handled the situation poorly or he was trying to provoke the officers so he would have some kind of actionable confrontation. Exercise your right but do it in a manner that reflects well on yourself and the rest of us who carry legally. State you do not wish to answer any questions if that is the case but do not be a smart-alec. Asking to reenact a you tube video? Really?

I was stopped very late one night driving home. I am sure the officer felt it was a good bet I was DUI. I was not as I had not been drinking. I respectfully declined to take any field sobriety test or answer any questions about where I was coming from or what I had been doing. When the officer asked me why I was not going to take the test or answer questions I told him it was a personal belief of mine to only do that which is required when dealing with the police. He said ok, ran my plates and me through the computer and sent me on my way.

Bottom line if you plan to OC be prepared to explain/educate. If you are able to do it without making someone defensive and antagonistic you will likely be able to go on your way and have done some good in support of the 2nd. Do it badly then expect a hassle and know you have done harm to our cause. Prevailing is not better than persuading. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

 

[Bypass]

I hope not. It brings up argument between open carry and conceal carry. Open carry is legal l, but more frustrating due to ignorance of people. Just my2 cents

Its not their ignorance that is the problem. It is their malicious intent.

They know the law and they want to burn you somehow because they hate guns and the people that carry them.

 

[wozbean]

There are a LOT of people who think ONLY LEO should have firearms. They also act as such.

 

[4thPointOfContact]

Remember the old joke about how to get a mule to obey?
It goes like this: It seems a farmer was complaining to a friend about the trouble he was having in getting his stubborn mule to move. After listening to the farmer's complaint, the friend said he knew just what to do.

"Get a two-by-four and whack the mule across the head with all your might," advised the friend. The farmer was taken aback. "But how will that get him to move?" asked the farmer. "Well, you see," the friend said, "first you've got to get his attention!"

 

[Proximal]

This thread made me think of the movie Hoodwinked... I have kids, don't judge me .

This quote fit the main theme of this thread's argument perfectly.

Red: Umm, he attacked me! Don't you think that's a little creepy?!
Nicky Flippers: We don't arrest people for being creepy.
Tommy: [into walkie-talkie] Yeah, Bruce, you know that guy we got in the tank?
Bruce: [over walkie-talkie] Ah, the creepy one?
Tommy: Yeah, better let him go.

 

[Zombie Ninja]

I guess our right to privacy is gone when walking in the woods?

 

[4thPointOfContact]

I guess our right to privacy is gone when walking in the woods?

Walking in the woods most likely wouldn't have attracted any attention, unfortunately the closest place to do so is Corps of Engineer land and I really don't want to eat prison food.
Walking on a pedestrian pathway and wearing "police socks" ..... that's a whole 'nother story.

 

[4thPointOfContact]

https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B3DJ7h3BEPHcNUNMYkxSS0U2WTQ
Case dropped.

Observations -
a). The original charge sheet ONLY lists 'criminal trespass' which is OCGA 16-7-21 with absolutely no mention of Georgia Weapons Licenses.

b.) That someone took the time to write by hand "Defendant has valid weapon carry license pursuant to OCGA 16-11-126(g)" make an implication that I don't think should be overlooked. Remember, the officers were dispatched to a MWAG call by security guard Paul Reid Hanna.

 

[4thPointOfContact]

A monetary offer was made on behalf of Plaza Security and its employee Reid Hanna to drop Mr. Hanna from the civil suit. Said offer was accepted with a confidentiality agreement containing a small penalty to be paid should the details be released to third-parties without permission.

The civil suit against Officers Adam Garth Bell and Rodney Dantzler is still proceeding.

 

[spavent]

I've had interactions with LEO's where my not doing everything they told me to do was viewed as inflammatory. I carried an empty holster into a courthouse once while going to jury duty and was detained for over an hour. I initially showed them my jury card, and explained my firearm was legally secured. And that wasn't enough, then I gave them my permit even though I had no gun and that wasnt' enough the even my DL. and that wasn't enough. I believed that eventually someone would just say. "OK go on your way sir" But they started to do a report and ask me where I was born and that's when I told them to arrest me if they had to and that I was done.. Then the cops start treating me and actually using the word terrorist / threat /??? Eventually when I stood my ground they made me put the holster away and let me go to jury duty. Common sense is LOST.