I've changed my mind about the Second Amendment

[bc]

I feel the same about this as the felons. If you are such a danger to society that you can't be 'trusted' to own a firearm, then you should not be free.

....................and you shouldn't have access to TV, HVAC, and a soft cot and then released after a few months.

 

[Mr. Goodbar]

If we dealt with real crime, there would be far less people locked up. I wonder how many lifelong criminals became lifelong criminals because of something stupid they did, had too much weed on them, and were then put in with real criminals.

I can see this happening

 

[Gigabyte71]

....................and you shouldn't have access to TV, HVAC, and a soft cot and then released after a few months.

At one time, many of the prisons didn't even allow the convicts to interact with one another. They were forced to go to church and were placed in 'cubes' so that they couldn't see anyone else.

 

[bc]

Born in '65. VIOLENT felons (which for some reason people like to keep straying from) have cause to be stripped of their 2A even after incarceration. Yes, that is an opinion.

Wife beaters can have their rights restored after a few years, yet lie to LEO about a crime you were never charged with or make a few bets on baseball and not report it, lose your rights for life. Do you not believe the government has not taken this a bit too far?

As for violent felons, give them long prison sentences followed by decades of probation. Their rights are still intact but they are legally prohibited while under court supervision. But then again, I don't believe for a second the governments agenda is public safety.

 

[bc]

Should the mentally ill be allowed access to firearms as well? Or if they are unsafe with firearms should they just be locked away? Know anyone who is bipolar?

You can't legislate evil out of society. Living in a free society means we accept certain risks. You can't have it both ways.

I am far more concerned about those who text and drive than I am about someone who wrote a bad check twenty years ago having a gun.

 

[bc]

At one time, many of the prisons didn't even allow the convicts to interact with one another. They were forced to go to church and were placed in 'cubes' so that they couldn't see anyone else.

Oh, I'd allow them to interact.......................via a chain tied to their ankles in the desert sun. I believe my method of punishment would be far more effective to deter crime than Mr. Fords.

 

[GeauxLSU]

Wife beaters can have their rights restored after a few years, yet lie to LEO about a crime you were never charged with or make a few bets on baseball and not report it, lose your rights for life. Do you not believe the government has not taken this a bit too far?

As for violent felons, give them long prison sentences followed by decades of probation. Their rights are still intact but they are legally prohibited while under court supervision. But then again, I don't believe for a second the governments agenda is public safety.

BC,
You KEEP bringing up non-violent felons. I have ZERO issue with non-violent felons owning firearms.
If you molest a child, commit armed robbery, murder, as far as I'm concerned you have sacrificed your right to be legally armed. I get the point "then keep them locked up". I'm fine with that as well. I'm not fine with locking every person who can still function in society with some mental illness but may not be stable enough 100% of the time to have a firearm. I get the logic of the "all or nothing" crowd. It simply is not that simple to me as it assumes everyone has equal ability and the only way to sort society is in two groups, incarceration or freedom. I don't subscribe. Again, it's an opinion.

You can't legislate evil out of society. Living in a free society means we accept certain risks. You can't have it both ways.

I am far more concerned about those who text and drive than I am about someone who wrote a bad check twenty years ago having a gun.

Not sure where the legislate evil out of society comes from but I never implied such a thing.

 

[Gigabyte71]

BC,
You KEEP bringing up non-violent felons. I have ZERO issue with non-violent felons owning firearms.
If you molest a child, commit armed robbery, murder, as far as I'm concerned you have sacrificed your right to be legally armed. I get the point "then keep them locked up". I'm fine with that as well. I'm not fine with locking every person who can still function in society with some mental illness but may not be stable enough 100% of the time to have a firearm. I get the logic of the "all or nothing" crowd. It simply is not that simple to me as it assumes everyone has equal ability and the only way to sort society is in two groups, incarceration or freedom. I don't subscribe. Again, it's an opinion. .

I do understand what you are saying, but that would then make gun ownership a privilege, and not a right. If it is a privilege, then the government can revoke that privilege at any time.

 

[bc]

BC,
You KEEP bringing up non-violent felons. I have ZERO issue with non-violent felons owning firearms.
If you molest a child, commit armed robbery, murder, as far as I'm concerned you have sacrificed your right to be legally armed. I get the point "then keep them locked up". I'm fine with that as well. I'm not fine with locking every person who can still function in society with some mental illness but may not be stable enough 100% of the time to have a firearm. I get the logic of the "all or nothing" crowd. It simply is not that simple to me as it assumes everyone has equal ability and the only way to sort society is in two groups, incarceration or freedom. I don't subscribe. Again, it's an opinion.

Not sure where the legislate evil out of society comes from but I never implied such a thing.

I believe we are on the same page other than I don't wish to give the government an inch because as they have shown, they will take a mile. No offense meant.

 

[GeauxLSU]

I do understand what you are saying, but that would then make gun ownership a privilege, and not a right. If it is a privilege, then the government can revoke that privilege at any time.

I believe you can forfeit them. I believe we all have a right to life AND I believe in capital punishment. Again, you forfeit it.