I've changed my mind about the Second Amendment

[Gigabyte71]

Don't know or really care. Has no relevance in this discussion that I can tell.

Aren't you LEO? Don't you need to know every law to be able to ensure you get all the 'bad guys'? My point is that there are so many laws out there that would make someone a felon that it is possible to commit them and not even be aware of it. I had heard it was something like 66,000+, but I can't verify that. Was hoping you might know.

 

[GeauxLSU]

I am thinking those who are defending felons not having their rights restored were born long after 1968 and simply don't know or understand anything else. It's all they know, therefore, it is the correct answer.

Thegovernment has been very effective convincing the public there is a distinctionbetween legal and illegal guns, when in fact, no distinction exists under theConstitution.

Born in '65. VIOLENT felons (which for some reason people like to keep straying from) have cause to be stripped of their 2A even after incarceration. Yes, that is an opinion.

 

[Ken Ford]

The flaw in your argument is the laws were passed under the guise of public safety, not a continued punishment of "paying the price". I'll ask you the same question no one else wants to answer; how is preventing Pete Rose from legally keeping a gun on his night stand in the best interest of public safety for which the law was intended? Reminds me of "it's not a tax, it's a tax, welcome to barrycare".

Punishment is also a deterrent. If the only thing taken was a few months with free food and TV Would not deter many. To me and most on here the loss of my 2nd is more of a problem than time served.

 

[bc]

I was born after 68, but I don't let feelings and opinions blind me to truth.

You are the exception and not the rule. I would venture to say most defending loss of rights have no idea how the Act of '68 even came about.

 

[GeauxLSU]

Let's say that Sandy Hook occurred just the way they claim, did that stop Lanza from obtaining firearms? Who gets to determine what constitutes a mental disorder that should limit someone from owning a firearm?

I agree. There is a difference however between someone illegally obtaining a firearm that shouldn't have one and someone legally obtaining one that shouldn't have one. I'm not inclined to facilitate the criminally insane or the sociopathic's access to firearms.

 

[Kalashnikov]

Punishment is also a deterrent. If the only thing taken was a few months with free food and TV Would not deter many.

Bringing back the Chain Gang and the sort may have some results

 

[Gigabyte71]

I agree. There is a difference however between someone illegally obtaining a firearm that shouldn't have one and someone legally obtaining one that shouldn't have one. I'm not inclined to facilitate the criminally insane or the sociopathic's access to firearms.

I feel the same about this as the felons. If you are such a danger to society that you can't be 'trusted' to own a firearm, then you should not be free.

 

[bc]

Punishment is also a deterrent. If the only thing taken was a few months with free food and TV Would not deter many.

Evasion noted. Here, I'll help you, if the goal was truly public safety, we would quit releasing violent criminals or mentally ill back into society until they are no longer a threat. Preventing Pete Rose from owning a gun to protect his home and family is not the solution to gun violence. It makes liberals feel good though.

 

[GeauxLSU]

I feel the same about this as the felons. If you are such a danger to society that you can't be 'trusted' to own a firearm, then you should not be free.

You are willing to lock up a lot more people than I, but... I understand your point (and have made it myself before).

 

[Gigabyte71]

You are willing to lock up a lot more people than I, but... I understand your point (and have made it myself before).

If we dealt with real crime, there would be far less people locked up. I wonder how many lifelong criminals became lifelong criminals because of something stupid they did, had too much weed on them, and were then put in with real criminals.