I've changed my mind about the Second Amendment

[Laufen]

During a recent discussion with a friend I came to the conclusion that I need to change a long held belief on the Right to Bear Arms. I have long argued that non-violent felons should be treated differently than violent felons in regards to gun rights. I argued that a person that was guilty of felony insurance fraud should retain their right to bear arms post incarceration, while the murderer, rapist, or child molester should not.
Rights as enumerated in the Constitution should be inalienable. There is NO reason a felon (violent or non-violent) that has paid his or her debt to society should be stripped of the right to bear arms.

A felon doesn't receive a truncated version of the First Amendment upon leaving prison, and neither should any felon.

A Westboro Baptist Church member or KKK member with a felony should also have the same First Amendment rights. While I heartily disagree with there messages, I strongly believe that it is absolutely vital to all of our rights that they are able to freely and openly express them.

Opinions?

 

[semi-pro]

so when a murderer gets out of jail give him his guns back?

 

[Laufen]

so when a murderer gets out of jail give him his guns back?

At that point you have paid your debt to society have you not? Should they be stripped of the right to illegal search and seizure as well....just in case they might be hiding something?

 

[Shrek926]

so when a murderer gets out of jail give him his guns back?

thats how it was until the 1920's.

 

[Laufen]

To identify how strong your position is, try to argue FOR your opinion instead of against mine.

 

[NY63]

During a recent discussion with a friend I came to the conclusion that I need to change a long held belief on the Right to Bear Arms. I have long argued that non-violent felons should be treated differently than violent felons in regards to gun rights. I argued that a person that was guilty of felony insurance fraud should retain their right to bear arms post incarceration, while the murderer, rapist, or child molester should not.
Rights as enumerated in the Constitution should be inalienable. There is NO reason a felon (violent or non-violent) that has paid his or her debt to society should be stripped of the right to bear arms.

A felon doesn't receive a truncated version of the First Amendment upon leaving prison, and neither should any felon.

A Westboro Baptist Church member or KKK member with a felony should also have the same First Amendment rights. While I heartily disagree with there messages, I strongly believe that it is absolutely vital to all of our rights that they are able to freely and openly express them.

Opinions?

I agree, with one exception; murderers, rapists, and child molesters get the death penalty. Gun rights for them is moot.

 

[bearpugh]

nah. i like it the way it is. maybe loss of rights might deter some. if not so be it.

 

[tlw1179]

To me felon = no guns. Insurance fraud , theft or murder. The felons had choices to not commit the felony before hand, they knew the consequences. . . . . .

 

[Shrek926]

At that point you have paid your debt to society have you not? Should they be stripped of the right to illegal search and seizure as well....just in case they might be hiding something?

Again we are in agreement. Scary.

 

[GeauxLSU]

Your position, which is consistent of course, assumes that 'paying your debt to society' equals rehabilitation. I don't subscribe.
I suppose you feel regardless of the number of DUI's you should always be allowed to get your license back (I get it's not an enumerated right but same principle).
There is a process for felons to get their 2A rights restored. I'm fine with that. Get out of jail and it becomes automatic, nope. You've proven your propensity to use firearms illegally and likely in a deadly manner towards innocents. I get the 'logic' behind your position, I simply don't agree and think it theoretical and naive.