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Looks like a Makarov in a homemade machine gun conversion kit.
View of other side. (But I still don't know the name of this thing....)
OK, one website showing the pics above calls it a "VEB machinepistole IX prototype."
I can't confirm that from other sources. There was a different gun that later became the
VEP MP model IX, but it didn't look like this prototype, and that later version had a vertical fore-grip
that served to hold a second magazine; the front grip was shaped identically to the rear grip.
Wikipedia says that VEB stands for Volkseigener Betrieb, which was the name for the collective state industry of East Germany.
That would be the manufacturer of the weapon.
More specifically, if this machine pistol were developed in the middle 1970s,
the state small arms industry of East Germany (GDR- German Democratic Republic-- is what they called themselves)
would be called VEB Fahrzeug- und Jagdwaffenwerk „Ernst Thälmann“, often abbreviated as FAJAS,
during the years from 1968 to 1990.
I can't confirm that from other sources. There was a different gun that later became the
VEP MP model IX, but it didn't look like this prototype, and that later version had a vertical fore-grip
that served to hold a second magazine; the front grip was shaped identically to the rear grip.
Wikipedia says that VEB stands for Volkseigener Betrieb, which was the name for the collective state industry of East Germany.
That would be the manufacturer of the weapon.
More specifically, if this machine pistol were developed in the middle 1970s,
the state small arms industry of East Germany (GDR- German Democratic Republic-- is what they called themselves)
would be called VEB Fahrzeug- und Jagdwaffenwerk „Ernst Thälmann“, often abbreviated as FAJAS,
during the years from 1968 to 1990.
Sooo......... did you look up the answer on the ugly little prototype machine pistol ?
I think this one above is a less-ugly and more practical later version of the prototype,
but I don't know if IT ever saw any real production and distribution.
I think this one above is a less-ugly and more practical later version of the prototype,
but I don't know if IT ever saw any real production and distribution.
It's a Raran 1130 prototype. It never made production. There is not too much about it online. It has a two piece bolt/slide recoil system to make the full auto more controllable/useful rather than it just being a burp gun.
A "transitional" revolver by William J Harvey, an Exeter (UK) gunmaker.
(Son of John Harvey who practiced as a gumaker in Exeter from 1796 until 1851. William J Harvey continued the family business until 1873.)
Here are some very similar Harvey pistols.
(Son of John Harvey who practiced as a gumaker in Exeter from 1796 until 1851. William J Harvey continued the family business until 1873.)
Here are some very similar Harvey pistols.
