ODT attorneys....Can your dust cover prove premeditated murder in a self defense scenario?

[SafeCracka]

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I said you not me!

 

[sniper22]

I said you not me!

 

[500mag]

What about my Spikes AR with "Parlay", "Plunder", and "ARRR" on the selector?

 

[payneed]

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@PearlDiver
@TacticalJeebus

 

[payneed]

What about my Spikes AR with "Parlay", "Plunder", and "ARRR" on the selector?

@Bypass

 

[Comanche]

Yep.

Skulls and images or suggestions of death or how bad ass I am stays off my weapons.
There's always a crafty lawyer and a bleeding heart jury pool that will hang you for it.

I find that stuff a bit sophomoric but that's just me.

Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't there a LEO that was excoriated after a shooting involving a similar modification to his weapon in recent years passed

 

[heavyd]

Serious legal question....I've never heard of this before.....my friend last night was talking about how you have to be careful what kind of engraved items you put on your gun in case you ever need it for self defense.....for example, he said that if you use your AR in a self defense situation and your dust cover has the words "You're ****ed" or "Smile, wait for the flash" ... something like that....a good prosecutor could use that to show intent and motive and charge you with murder. He said there was a case a while back where a police officer had to use his rifle to stop a threat and was charged with murder and convicted because the inscription on his rifle was successfully argued to show premeditated intent to kill. Any truth to this? It sounds absurd.

A prosecutor could absolutely try to proffer that evidence.

 

[kingdaddy3247]

A prosecutor could absolutely try to proffer that evidence.

Tee he he! He said proffer.













*what the heck does proffer mean?

 

[Cruisers460]

Skipping over 10 pages of reading....I know an attorney (that means I'm not one) who had a case some years back on an auto wreck. Everything was going well until the opposing side submitted a picture of his clients bumper. The client had a bumper sticker that said basically "hit me, I need the money" Jury seemed to feel his client didn't need much money after that.

 

[gh1950]

Skipping over 10 pages of reading....I know an attorney (that means I'm not one) who had a case some years back on an auto wreck. Everything was going well until the opposing side submitted a picture of his clients bumper. The client had a bumper sticker that said basically "hit me, I need the money" Jury seemed to feel his client didn't need much money after that.

You know how every other thread here has someone saying "I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6."

We had a murder case locally where the prosecutor introduced evidence that the defendant made that statement often, on the basis that it showed a propensity for violence. The defendant was pleading self defense in the killing of a teenager.

So when Ricky Gear got his wish and was judged by 12, those 12 gave him a life sentence, which he is currently serving.

Point being that any cute internet buzz phrase or meme can have unintended consequences. Did introducing that phrase into evidence make a lot of difference? Probably not - but it sure didn't help the defendant at all.