Pistol brace questions

[Alpha5717]

I wasn't sure where to post this and was too lazy to start researching this on Westlaw.

So, my understanding is that a person can own a braced pistol, but if they put a stock on it, they have to get prior approval to have an SBR. Does that mean the brace could be taken off and a regular carbine stock used? Does an SBR use the same buffer tube, spring and buffer as the braced pistol? Furthermore, if you take the upper off and shoot a 16" upper on it, can you then legally put your SBR upper back on or does the SBR become a carbine at that point? Idle curiousity is all.

 

[Spas-12 Owner]

So, most braces use the standard "Milspec " stock tube ( Receiver extension ), so yes you can remove the brace and install a stock, after you SBR it.
The shorter barrels tend to like heavier buffer, but it should work correctly with a standard buffer ( though I use H2 in my SBR's)

You can swap the uppers on AR's to different configurations. The ATF just wants it to be readily available to turn back into what you put on the stamp.

 

[ReservoirDawg10]

I wasn't sure where to post this and was too lazy to start researching this on Westlaw.

So, my understanding is that a person can own a braced pistol, but if they put a stock on it, they have to get prior approval to have an SBR. Does that mean the brace could be taken off and a regular carbine stock used? Does an SBR use the same buffer tube, spring and buffer as the braced pistol? Furthermore, if you take the upper off and shoot a 16" upper on it, can you then legally put your SBR upper back on or does the SBR become a carbine at that point? Idle curiousity is all.

Being lazy can grant you some pen time. This is the problem today. People are too lazy. Do some research. This has been covered countless times on all sorts of forums, channels, white papers, etc. This has been covered countless times here on odt as well. Use the search function.

 

[BigMike]

I wasn't sure where to post this and was too lazy to start researching this on Westlaw.

So, my understanding is that a person can own a braced pistol, but if they put a stock on it, they have to get prior approval to have an SBR. Does that mean the brace could be taken off and a regular carbine stock used? Does an SBR use the same buffer tube, spring and buffer as the braced pistol? Furthermore, if you take the upper off and shoot a 16" upper on it, can you then legally put your SBR upper back on or does the SBR become a carbine at that point? Idle curiousity is all.

And if you really need to know, call your attorney. He can tell you with certainty as you are paying him to keep you out of trouble with the law.
I don't run pistol braces as my understanding is a braced pistol is still an SBR, even though the rule was vacated and deemed not prosecutable.

 

[Alpha5717]

And if you really need to know, call your attorney. He can tell you with certainty as you are paying him to keep you out of trouble with the law.
I don't run pistol braces as my understanding is a braced pistol is still an SBR, even though the rule was vacated and deemed not prosecutable.

Yeah, when that crap started, I pulled the brace off a pistol and threw it in the trash. Then I replaced the buffer tube with a tube that doesn't accept any kind of stock.

 

[Alpha5717]

Being lazy can grant you some pen time. This is the problem today. People are too lazy. Do some research. This has been covered countless times on all sorts of forums, channels, white papers, etc. This has been covered countless times here on odt as well. Use the search function.

What part of curiousity did you not understand? I'm not doing pen time for asking a question... at least not yet.

 

[Alpha5717]

So, most braces use the standard "Milspec " stock tube ( Receiver extension ), so yes you can remove the brace and install a stock, after you SBR it.
The shorter barrels tend to like heavier buffer, but it should work correctly with a standard buffer ( though I use H2 in my SBR's)

You can swap the uppers on AR's to different configurations. The ATF just wants it to be readily available to turn back into what you put on the stamp.

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That's what I was asking about. Thanks. Saw a video short on Youtube where a guy puts a verticle grip on an AR pistol affixed to the side and walks out of the store turning his AR with the grip horizontally saying not a felony, then in the vertical position he says felony. If his "pistol" wasn't an SBR he will probably be a target for the guys with a Bad Attidude Toward Freedom.

 

[wolfmanrogers]

I get all of my legal advice from random folks on an internet forum.

 

[Spas-12 Owner]

That's what I was asking about. Thanks. Saw a video short on Youtube where a guy puts a verticle grip on an AR pistol affixed to the side and walks out of the store turning his AR with the grip horizontally saying not a felony, then in the vertical position he says felony. If his "pistol" wasn't an SBR he will probably be a target for the guys with a Bad Attidude Toward Freedom.

Saw the same video, it was a jest video done by kings of camo.

 

[ReservoirDawg10]

That's what I was asking about. Thanks. Saw a video short on Youtube where a guy puts a verticle grip on an AR pistol affixed to the side and walks out of the store turning his AR with the grip horizontally saying not a felony, then in the vertical position he says felony. If his "pistol" wasn't an SBR he will probably be a target for the guys with a Bad Attidude Toward Freedom.

You definitely need to just talk to an attorney. Too gullible to take info from random internet people.