I think my friend who recently passed and who had served proudly in Vietnam said it best. " I actually prefer an AK type rifle over the m16, however I have never killed anybody with one of those." .............. Optics..., give it a shot... you may just enjoy it.
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Red dots on pistols
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I use the Shield on my SC, after 3 months I have it down, muscle memory, hands, head. Fast accurate placements. Liked it, got a Sig Legion X with a Holosun, and am almost there. Takes more practice in my opinion than irons, but once you have it, you are on....
Still shoot my STI's better with irons, and my Sig 226 Tacops is the best feeling shooter to me.
Never used a RedDot but expect it would be a good "aid" for those who haven’t sent a lot of lead downrange....I have a couple pocket guns that I put a grip activated laser on....biggest reason is, something like a M&P 380 Bodyguard is hard for me to put on target in a hurry....even at 3-5 yards....the laser at least affords greater confidence the lead is going to go where the dot is....nothing wrong with that....if a Red Dot helps somebody accomplish that, then I see that as a good thing....(especially if I happen to be standing nearby)....
The reality is, many of us would probably like to have others think we can shoot like Roy Rogers or John Wayne (in the dark while blindfolded)....but we're secretly satisfied with shot placement within six inches of where we think we are aiming....
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The reality is, many of us would probably like to have others think we can shoot like Roy Rogers or John Wayne (in the dark while blindfolded)....but we're secretly satisfied with shot placement within six inches of where we think we are aiming....
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My shooting took off exponentially when I starting shooting a dot. Most folks on here don't shoot enough to really understand what all goes into shooting a dot. They pick up their buddies at an indoor range and the dot is shaking all over the place, they can't find the dot quickly, their grip sucks so they lose the dot during recoil so they swear it off and say that dots suck.
If you take the time to learn a dot....it IS better in every way. It's faster and easier to shoot more accurately.
If you take the time to learn a dot....it IS better in every way. It's faster and easier to shoot more accurately.
New Guy has serious troll potential...
Im not saying people can't be proficient with irons I train irons regularly I have them on all my carry guns, what I'm saying a red dot will always outperform irons. Red dots outperform iroms just like they do on rifles or does everyone on here only prefer irons on thier rifles? Shooting in general is a perishable skill to a extent it like riding a bike sure you aren't as good as when you rode everday when you were younger, but hop on a bike now and youll pick it up quickly same principles
This study documents a significant advantage of using small red dot optics mounted on the slide of duty pistols in the hands of law-enforcement officers and police cadets.
But, the scoring zones of the targets they were using may be a little bit smaller than what would be an "acceptable hit" in a real life gunfight.
http://docs.wixstatic.com/ugd/7dc128_c8da57977a8c4b53903192fa603fce6f.pdf
Actually, this new study also reviews an older study,
so in effect you're looking at two studies --
with different groups of test subjects, in different parts of the country, years apart.
But, the scoring zones of the targets they were using may be a little bit smaller than what would be an "acceptable hit" in a real life gunfight.
http://docs.wixstatic.com/ugd/7dc128_c8da57977a8c4b53903192fa603fce6f.pdf
Actually, this new study also reviews an older study,
so in effect you're looking at two studies --
with different groups of test subjects, in different parts of the country, years apart.
Needed- red dot optic or any opting in a handgun, absolutely not...
Irons are Needed... through training and mastering the irons you can take your abilities to the neck level/ challange.
On a defensive firearm nobody will tell a perp to wait one until I get everything ready to include Turing on said optic... should you be in a defensive posture, more than likely you will point shoot depending on distance with hopefully well aimed fire itemizing a complete sight picture if not itemizing a complete sight picture from the start of engagement.
RDO’s really help with accuracy/ grouping.... keep in mind any given shooter may not be able to hold steady on a target as easy as they can with the RDO... the RDO allows someone a crisper sight pic with a finer sight pic as to where most front combat sights have a wider radius taking up the majority of center mass making it sometimes hard for the shooter to hold center mass.
The shooter needs to master the Irons before progressing to an RDO.
Just my .2
Respectfully
Chris
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Irons are Needed... through training and mastering the irons you can take your abilities to the neck level/ challange.
On a defensive firearm nobody will tell a perp to wait one until I get everything ready to include Turing on said optic... should you be in a defensive posture, more than likely you will point shoot depending on distance with hopefully well aimed fire itemizing a complete sight picture if not itemizing a complete sight picture from the start of engagement.
RDO’s really help with accuracy/ grouping.... keep in mind any given shooter may not be able to hold steady on a target as easy as they can with the RDO... the RDO allows someone a crisper sight pic with a finer sight pic as to where most front combat sights have a wider radius taking up the majority of center mass making it sometimes hard for the shooter to hold center mass.
The shooter needs to master the Irons before progressing to an RDO.
Just my .2
Respectfully
Chris
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