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Ronda Rousey?

I think you might change your mind about some of that after this season of TUF. Maybe im wrong, but as far as the previews go, she actually seems like a drama queen and a world class ***** whos ego and head is already about to explode. A woman with that much testosterone is bound to have issues anyway lol. As far as undefeated MMA champ, that is true and a real shame for all the other real MMA fighters that have well rounded skills. She is just in the right place at the right time and a physical specimen in her weight class. UFC used her looks to launch WMMA into mainstream.

Women's MMA is in its infancy, very undeveloped and her winning streak will come to an end real soon. The reality is her striking is pathetic and her MMA grappling skills are very weak, she gives up her back to almost everyone. Very lucky she hasnt lost yet, only because she was fighting much much smaller women. Wont be long until someone with some solid jiu jitsu defense will wreck her, or someone with solid striking and fundamental grappling defense will knock her the f out. Her striking really is quite pathetic. Ugh, i cant believe we have to watch her fight tate again. Tate is actually well rounded, just way too small for rousey/135 lb.

They have been saying this every time before she fights. Then she destroys her opponent in the first round. Has she ever gone to a second round? Don't think so. In fact, most of her wins have been in less than a minute. She also fights in her weight class, which is the same one that Tate is in, so the size argument doesn't hold true.

She is also working her ass off to get better at all aspects of MMA, just like every other successful MMA fighter does. They basically come into the sport with a specialty that they excel at and learn the rest to stay competitive.

BTW, TUF is just like any other reality show and they want and encourage drama. That's why I stopped watching it a couple of seasons ago. My judgment of her will not be effected by what she says or does on the show. Well, maybe it will show that she's a good actor.
 
Im still a fan =) and I like seeing her fight. I was hoping she would develop much faster. Keeping in mind she has been pampered at some of the top gyms in the country for what, about 2 years now? and she still cannot strike at all, and continues to give up her back in every fight as a defensive reaction to being attached, idk , not good. If cyborg can stay off the juice and cut down, she could probably dominate. But then i would be complaining about having one of the uglies dudes alive as the current WMMA champ hah =)

We will probably just have to wait another 2-3 years at least for some real mixed martial artist that have been training MMA from day 1 to fully develop, just like mens MMA took around 5-10 years to come full circle...
 
They have been saying this every time before she fights. Then she destroys her opponent in the first round. Has she ever gone to a second round? Don't think so. In fact, most of her wins have been in less than a minute. She also fights in her weight class, which is the same one that Tate is in, so the size argument doesn't hold true.

She is also working her ass off to get better at all aspects of MMA, just like every other successful MMA fighter does. They basically come into the sport with a specialty that they excel at and learn the rest to stay competitive.

BTW, TUF is just like any other reality show and they want and encourage drama. That's why I stopped watching it a couple of seasons ago. My judgment of her will not be effected by what she says or does on the show. Well, maybe it will show that she's a good actor.

Sounds like you have more of a crush on rhonda than a knowledge of MMA. And if you think someone that cuts 15 lbs of water to make a weight class is the same size at someone that walks around lean at the same weight, you are greatly mistaken lol. Its the difference in 2 weight classes. Its all fair game of course as long as your not juicing. Nobody can deny she has been spoon fed at some of the greatest camps in the world and her last 2 performances were probably her worst yet. If you actually know fundamentals of grappling and striking, she is terrible at both. Giving up your back is the #1 mistake you can make, and she does it over and over again.

I dont give a crap what they weigh dude. Rhonda ran and turned her back from this tiny little woman and almost got chocked out. Luckily she was able to do the only thing she can do, muscle out an arm bar from a smaller opponent. Im not doubting the skills, she is a beast, just simply stating she hasnt fought anyone as well built for the weight class, that was either well rounded, or equally as talented at another skill set. As far as the attitude and acting goes, i think your dead wrong. Again, a women with that much testosterone is going to have personality issues, no way around that.

You think they are the same size? =) Not much difference in this and UFC trying to make a super fight between Jon Jones and GPS. Laughable really.

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl...FcFUtaBJ4nN2wXKnoDABg&ved=0CEEQ9QEwAw&dur=553

another

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl...MQSW6BpRDv_zM:;LBqwy362rERPIM;CMQSW6BpRDv_zM:
 
Also for the sake of facts and not opinions, Rhonda walks around at about 150lb, carmouche walks around at low 130s =) UFC taking care of their investment.
 
Im still a fan =) and I like seeing her fight. I was hoping she would develop much faster. Keeping in mind she has been pampered at some of the top gyms in the country for what, about 2 years now? and she still cannot strike at all, and continues to give up her back in every fight as a defensive reaction to being attached, idk , not good. If cyborg can stay off the juice and cut down, she could probably dominate. But then i would be complaining about having one of the uglies dudes alive as the current WMMA champ hah =)

We will probably just have to wait another 2-3 years at least for some real mixed martial artist that have been training MMA from day 1 to fully develop, just like mens MMA took around 5-10 years to come full circle...

Pampered? Really? I don't think "Top Gym" and "Pampered" fit in the same sentence. LOL! If they did, it wouldn't be a top gym.

Also, just because she doesn't need to depend on any of her striking skills in a bout yet, doesn't mean she's not developing them. She certainly has a good defense against strikes.
 
Sounds like you have more of a crush on rhonda than a knowledge of MMA. And if you think someone that cuts 15 lbs of water to make a weight class is the same size at someone that walks around lean at the same weight, you are greatly mistaken lol. Its the difference in 2 weight classes. Its all fair game of course as long as your not juicing. Nobody can deny she has been spoon fed at some of the greatest camps in the world and her last 2 performances were probably her worst yet. If you actually know fundamentals of grappling and striking, she is terrible at both. Giving up your back is the #1 mistake you can make, and she does it over and over again.

I dont give a crap what they weigh dude. Rhonda ran and turned her back from this tiny little woman and almost got chocked out. Luckily she was able to do the only thing she can do, muscle out an arm bar from a smaller opponent. Im not doubting the skills, she is a beast, just simply stating she hasnt fought anyone as well built for the weight class, that was either well rounded, or equally as talented at another skill set. As far as the attitude and acting goes, i think your dead wrong. Again, a women with that much testosterone is going to have personality issues, no way around that.

You think they are the same size? =) Not much difference in this and UFC trying to make a super fight between Jon Jones and GPS. Laughable really.

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl...FcFUtaBJ4nN2wXKnoDABg&ved=0CEEQ9QEwAw&dur=553

another

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl...MQSW6BpRDv_zM:;LBqwy362rERPIM;CMQSW6BpRDv_zM:

With your superior knowledge of MMA, :rolleyes: you should also understand that every time a fighter cuts a lot to make weight it also weakens them. It's a sign of their physical ability to cut and still fight well. If Carmouche was as physically capable as Ronda, she could also walk around at 150lb.

Also, your statement "just simply stating she hasnt fought anyone as well built for the weight class, that was either well rounded, or equally as talented at another skill set." is a little strange when you realize that this is EXACTLY what makes a champion. There's no one else around with their ability. There's not another female fighter that can do what Ronda does as well as she does it, thus she is the champion. :noidea:

Rather than me having a "crush" on her (which I don't LOL), it's starting to sound like you simply don't like her personally.

BTW, regardless of what your pics look like, Ronda is 5'7" and Carmouche is 5'6". Only one inch difference.
 
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Pampered? Really? I don't think "Top Gym" and "Pampered" fit in the same sentence. LOL! If they did, it wouldn't be a top gym.

Also, just because she doesn't need to depend on any of her striking skills in a bout yet, doesn't mean she's not developing them. She certainly has a good defense against strikes.



Yes pampered, fast tracked, whatever you want to call it. A virtual nobody in the MMA community that received the red carpet treatment and got access to top level trainers and training partners because of her looks and celebrity status. I am not hating, i like her and enjoy watching her fight. She just isnt an elite MMA fighter. She is a specialist that is perfectly built for her weight class, a physical specimen, in the right place at the right time and the sport will pass her by. No need to argue, we can just bookmark this thread and revisit it in the near future hah ;) Time will tell all.

I am not pulling against her either, i enjoy watching her fights and i will be happy if she comes out and KOs her next 5 opponents. I will gladly eat crow, but its not going to happen man. Hell i will be happy if she can just get a win by anything other than prying out an arm bar from a much smaller and overpowered opponent.

And no sir, her striking blows and she has crap striking defense which consist of back peddling, straight back, and turning her back to her opponent. She stands up way too tall, head up high, chin up, and hands down. Fortunately for her she is able to tie up after exchanges and go for the takedown, she definitely has no interest or business trading punches. Hey, maybe she will shock the world and prove to be a dominate reigning champion, i just dont think well rounded elite fighters develop this late in a career.
 
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