I came across 2 interesting ruger 10/22 the other day. I reached out to ruger who let me know this particular sub model was discontinued in the 80s I believe. Just wondered if someone with some more knowledge knew anything about them, are they a collectible worth anything? The stock is in fact from ruger. Sorry for the sloppy picture didn’t think the patron would appreciate me identifying their store in a post. Really cool tho kind of want them
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Ruger 10/22 vintage?
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not sure that Ruger ever produced a 10/22 with that stock. I have one, and can't recall the brand name of it. They made a stainless steel folder, and one with blued steel folding mechanism.
Butler Creek. That is the brand of the stock. did it have Ruger markings on it? I know Ruger makes "special" rifles and pistols for its distributors over the years, so maybe they did a run with the Butler Creek stocks from the factory?
Butler Creek. That is the brand of the stock. did it have Ruger markings on it? I know Ruger makes "special" rifles and pistols for its distributors over the years, so maybe they did a run with the Butler Creek stocks from the factory?
I’m gonna go look closer it was interesting because they had 2 and I’ve never seen one
Those are awesome, I’ve been looking for one.
Butler Creek is the company that made the stock.
They came on the AMT lightining 25 back in the 80s.
They were the first to produce a stainless 10/22 and Ruger mk 2 in stainless.
Bill Ruger sued AMT to cease ans desist production a d won the case but didn't take any cash settlement, as long as production came to a halt
They came on the AMT lightining 25 back in the 80s.
They were the first to produce a stainless 10/22 and Ruger mk 2 in stainless.
Bill Ruger sued AMT to cease ans desist production a d won the case but didn't take any cash settlement, as long as production came to a halt
Heres mine
This is why I love these types of sites. The information and opportunity to get ideas is so priceless. I’m a big boater/fisherman as well and the hull truth is one of my other favorites. If I were to purchase one of these, is there any chassis that would fit this fire arm I could modernize a classic? My thought is no but something like this the one in fde.
My next question is unrelated to this post, well somewhat related, but a different Ruger topic. My current project is based off of the charger. I’ve also attached a picture of my end result not exactly this, but kind of my vision.. when it comes to the short barrel rifle versus pistol thing if I were to use a receiver from a 10–22 versus a receiver from a charger, would I run into the issue of creating a sbr?
They are in fact the same receiver however I believe they are stamped differently. The 10/22 receiver is much easier to find in stock, also better options, finishes, ext than the charger receiver. I would be putting a 8 inch barrel and a folding brace on a rifle receiver, even even though they are the same receivers..
It’s a bit confusing to me if you read this little tidbit from the Google “Yes, the Ruger 10/22 and Ruger 22 Charger receivers are physically identical. The only difference is the lettering indicating the model, and legally, the Charger can be used as a pistol or rifle, while the 10/22 is primarily designed as a rifle”. This to me makes no sense when I build an AR 15 pistol I’m using the same receiver I would use to build a rifle. I’m just using a brace versus a stock with this not be the same situation?
. I was born and raised in the northeast and firearms have recently become a passion so I am still learning. I was neglected the pleasure of being able to enjoy my second amendment right growing up..
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TL;DR - no you can't LEGALLY make a 10/22 receiver into a charger/short barrel/pistol without going thru the form 1/SBR registration. Start with the Charger receiver if you want it legal.
So to keep it simple- if it is a pistol/charger then you can use a brace and any setup you want except a vertical forward grip (I don't know why but that is the law). Pistol + vertical grip = SBR
if you have a rifle (10/22 rifle) then the only way to put a short barrel on it (under 16") is to pay for the SBR stamp and form 1 the rifle to an SBR. You can not just put a brace on it and call it a pistol because it was originally purchased as a rifle from the dealer when you bought it (when it is purchased on a 4473 it is registered as a rifle when you buy a 10/22, pistol when you purchase a Charger). the saying is "once a rifle, always a rifle".
So to use your Ruger as a "pistol" you would have to start with the Charger action, even though they are identical. If you want to use your 10/22 rifle as a pistol with a shorter barrel, you can't legally without converting to an SBR. But you can register it (form 1, pay the tax, engrave) as an SBR. With the Charger you can put a brace on it, but not put a stock on it unless you register it, pay the tax and form 1/engrave the receiver.
AR15's kind of get around some of this if you purchase a stripped lower receiver, it can be sold/registered as "other" or "pistol" as it could be built into a pistol or a rifle (I maybe off on my terminology, but usually the stripped lowers are not registered as a rifle by most shops). If it was purchased with a stock and registered as a rifle when purchased, then you can't just remove parts and convert it to a pistol (once a rifle, always a rifle (or SBR)). I have purchased a couple of stripped lowers specifically to build as pistols, and am in the process of doing a Form 1 to SBR at least one or two so I can have traditional stocks on them with short barrels and vertical grips if I want.
so to go back on your original question- if you purchase something as a rifle, it is always a rifle. you can SBR (short barrel rifle) it and register it (form 1, tax stamp, engraving) but it's still a rifle just a short barrel rifle at that point. If you purchase something as a pistol, you can run whatever length barrel you want as long as you don't put a stock on it (Ok to have a brace on it) or a vertical grip in the front. If you want to put a stock on it (or vertical grip) then you need to register it and go that route.
of course you could just take your 10/22 receiver and make it into a charger/pistol as it's all the same fitment and design, but technically it would be illegal. Is it worth it to run that risk? that's up to you. I bought a Charger a while ago even though I have a few 10/22's that I could have moved parts around so I didn't have to worry about something being illegal. I will probably SBR one of them and my debate is SBR one of my 10/22 rifles and buy a shorter barrel and appropriate stock, or SBR the charger and put a stock on it.
Here’s my Charger build. As said above 10/22 and charger receivers are identical other than “charger” being embossed on the receiver and being classified on a 4473 as a pistol.
If you buy an aftermarket receiver from what I understand you can choose if it’s a rifle or a pistol once you go fill out the 4473. Just make sure who ever brings it into their book they understand you want it registered as a pistol or rifle.
For reference here’s my charger build. I’m currently trying to decide to use the Eotech 512 or the Holosun 403c. Which is why there’s 2 different optics mounted on it.
If you buy an aftermarket receiver from what I understand you can choose if it’s a rifle or a pistol once you go fill out the 4473. Just make sure who ever brings it into their book they understand you want it registered as a pistol or rifle.
For reference here’s my charger build. I’m currently trying to decide to use the Eotech 512 or the Holosun 403c. Which is why there’s 2 different optics mounted on it.
