I was looking at some videos yesterday on 22 cans. Lol.Yeah what he said. And watch Nonliberal's video on his new 22 can. It was as quiet or quieter than the big name competitor's product. And besides that just watch any mob or hit man movie. They always use 22 with cans. Usually it's a Ruger MK2 . But that's if you wanna go old school. I'd love a 10\22 with an integral can. They work better and they're shorter. Just watch YouTube videos on them. All you hear is bolt noise. Other than that I think the 22\45 with that Pack Light ( spell check please) upper is the way to go with whichever can you like.