SHTF trade question

[biker_bill]

I have huge problems with gold and silver being used as currency after SHTF. if some sort of calamity were to happen, 15-20% of the population will be dead after the first year. maybe more.

my point is, there are going to be tons of houses, banks, jewelry stores and the like just sitting there.

Whats to stop me, 6 months in, from going into abandoned houses, or an old jelery store, making a mold from bars or coins and melting down the crap I collected and minting new, garbage coins and bars?

gold and silver are going to be easy to get...and very easy to dilute. Gold and silver are going to be cut more than Columbian bam-bam, and that's AFTER the value plummets from inflation when the supply of gold and silver gets flooded everywhere.

the average person isint doesn't know how to tell if its pure, and if its not, how pure it is.

I just don't see it as having a stable value over the long term.

Well you sure can't eat, drink, smoke or wipe your tail with it.
Those are pretty much my priorities, lol.

But I can see it being used for trade in the beginning and those with a large trade stash of other items will be scapping it up. Whether or not they can ever trade it for something more useful at a later date is questionable.

 

[dondon48]

i have been picking up cheap bed sheets and cutting up for butt wiping in the future. they can washed and boiled for repeated use. Paper will be hard to come by.

my back up for running out of tp is pump up garden sprayers...fill with water and use them like a bidet...

 

[biker_bill]

my back up for running out of tp is pump up garden sprayers...fill with water and use them like a bidet...

I sure don't want to get to that point!

 

[jloneill17]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00E63WRTY/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1L0WTH0TOW7MN

here you go. for $18 you have 100 lighters. cheap, light enough to carry on the go and easily tradeable. people might not need them at first b/c everyone has a couple in the house. later, they will be worth their weight in gold.
I stockpile fish antibiotics as well.

 

[dondon48]

I sure don't want to get to that point!

me neither, but there are a lot of worse alternatives...

 

[biker_bill]

me neither, but there are a lot of worse alternatives...

Like not knowing what poison ivy looks like?

 

[biker_bill]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00E63WRTY/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1L0WTH0TOW7MN

here you go. for $18 you have 100 lighters. cheap, light enough to carry on the go and easily tradeable. people might not need them at first b/c everyone has a couple in the house. later, they will be worth their weight in gold.
I stockpile fish antibiotics as well.

I have 250 of these. I like the fact that you can see they're full. The reason I bought them was I read an online Journal from someone in Serbia (I think) that went through a SHTF situation. The government shut off the electric and gas. They mentioned this was a top trade item.

 

[jloneill17]

I have 250 of these. I like the fact that you can see they're full. The reason I bought them was I read an online Journal from someone in Serbia (I think) that went through a SHTF situation. The government shut off the electric and gas. They mentioned this was a top trade item.

I read the same article.

 

[biker_bill]

I read the same article.

That was excellent right? An actual situation in this day and age.
I ended up buying a case of those liquid candles because of that journal.

Since then I've gotten into solar power a little bit, just one 40 or 60 watt panel.
I bought some LED bulbs for those outside lights you see in most driveways and hooked the controller up to a 12V car battery and the lights to the controller as well.
Works great! I have nice bright lights lining the driveway and they're still bright every morning until they go off. Forever, for the original investment.

And it's a backup for a long term power out situation, I'll just pull them in the house and unhook the ones I don't need.

 

[dondon48]

Like not knowing what poison ivy looks like?

that...corn cobs...sticks...my right hand...