Whenever I hear someone claim a gun “just went off”, these images pop in my head.
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Sig Carry? Safe or Dangerous?
- Thread starter Misterk42
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Glock will do the same thing. In fact just bout every single striker fired design will do that. Set the trigger, press the slide and bam. It’s a great video to mine clicks from people who don’t know any better though.
Could I possibly interest you in a canted holster?
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Put a primed case in it and nothing will happen.
Glocks have a well designed firing pin block that would stop the striker from hitting the primer unless the trigger is depressed much more than that. Interestingly the SIG P365 has a very similar design to glocks (along with countless others). The SIG p320 firing pin safety is radically different and probably has something to do with all the unintended discharges.
This illustration shows Glocks firing pin block, the SIG p365 and many others are practically the same. It's a very good and proven design.
The P320's firing pin block design (green part top of diagram) is unique the the P320 (at least that I know of) and is obviously prone to failure.
How exactly it fails is yet to be determined.
Please show me proof that less than a mm of sear trip and holstering a glock or messing with the slide will fire a round. If this was an issue ALL striker fired pistols would be on the news ALL the time. Especially given how many armies and police officers have carried glocks over the last two decades. Insurance agencies would not cover the departments if the guns they used kept going off and killing officers and people.
Cool animations but they has nothing to do with the video. The sear is releasing. The striker is moving forward. It will fire a round. This isn’t exclusive to Sig, Glock, HK or any striker fired pistol. I’m not saying there isn’t a problem with the P320, there might be. What I’m saying is that video with the screwed in P320 trigger going off with the slide movement is bull**** viewer farming. If you set the trigger on just about any striker fired pistol. You can get the striker to release with enough slide movement. You’re setting the trigger enough to deactivate the internal safeties and tension the striker. The only difference between the Glock and 320 is the amount of trigger travel. The 320 has less distance to go because the striker is pre-tensioned. The Glock trigger is more forgiving in this regard but also it is kind of one of the reasons Glock triggers aren’t the best either. One of the most popular triggers for the Glock comes from Timney and it essentially pre-tensions the trigger just like on the 320. So a Glock with the Temney trigger installed, will need even less trigger movement to release the striker just like the 320.
Again, to be clear I am not saying there isn’t an issue with the 320. What I am saying is don’t be so quick to latch on to someone who claims they discovered the problem. This guy is the third or fourth one to claim they discovered the problem and really it’s just a red herring.
I don’t need to show you anything. I don’t work for you. I do however know how both pistols operate at an armorer level of knowledge and what I’m saying is you can get almost any striker fired pistol to fire with slide movement after you set the trigger that far back defeating the internal safeties. Once you overcome the internal safety limitations, all bets are off no matter the brand of firearm in question.
