Dang, I thought A.T.T. (C.W.A.), Southern Company (I.B.E.W.), G. E. (I.U.E./C.W.A) and a host of other Fortune 500 companies were pretty solvent.
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Unions....Great for the little guy OR GTFO your corrupt and ruining everything
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ua 72 member here you get what you put in just like anything else in life.As far as having to know somebody thats a load of bull .you just have to go through the process and not think your **** hot cause you went to some quickie trade school ,get certified and pass a weld test you'll get in .
You want to collective bargain with your buddy at the office fine, well funded unions on the other hand look for unconstitutional government support and trample the rights of business owners.
exactly. I'm in 72 as well and we have some damn fine pipefitters,chilla gorilla's and commercial techs out there! I dont agree with all the politics of the local or any union but like anywhere you go, there are hardworkers and there are peices o ****e.
You named some that have had FEWER union related issues. Take a look at some of the FORMER Fortune 500 companies that got screwed by unions or had to downsize due to union bs. There are probably more non-unionized F500's than unionized F500's.
I have not singled out teachers. I clearly said they were one of the problems with our educational system, not the only one. With that said, teachers are where the rubber meets the road. They are the direct link to the students in their classroom. If a teacher is there for nothing but a paycheck and are protected by their union, they turn into bad teachers and are no longer concerned with educating the students. I saw this in many teachers when I was in school a long time ago and the situation has done nothing but get worse. My daughters struggled with many of their teachers. This included ones that never taught anything (just had them read the textbook), ones that could not speak English well enough to be understood, one that simply would not speak loud enough for the majority of the class to hear him (regardless of how many times he was asked to speak louder), and ones that spent most of their time trying to indoctrinate the students to their personal views (liberal) rather than teach the curriculum, etc, etc, etc. These teachers could not be disciplined or fired because of union protection.
At the same time most of the good teachers got frustrated because it simply did not matter if they did a good job or not. They got raises just like the bad teachers for longevity rather than performance and the only way to progress through the educational system was to be a political animal, not a good teacher. Most of the good ones quit and move into areas that they can make more money in and in which their drive and integrity are rewarded rather than suppressed.
The reason I know all this is because I was a good parent and got very involved. I had to. Let me tell you though, it's hard to get a young kid to understand that they are responsible for their education for their own good when the person supplying that education obviously does not give a s**t.
Unfortunately most union workers cant see past thier own bloated paychecks and benefit packages,to see how thier organizations are helping to destroy our country and way of life. as long as they can keep rakeing it in, its all good.
Just before I went active duty in the army I was working for a construction machines leasing company. Gravy job, making about $10 an hour. I was 18 and living good. Blew the first whole check in a strip club and called in sick(hangover) the next day. Boss told me not long before I left for basic that it was too bad I wasn't staying, I could join the union and get an instant raise to $17 an hour. SEVEN BUCKS an hour for not one bit more work.
Back then I thought that was AWESOME! Now that I know better I think it's AWFUL! Unions RAPE business. And business responds by off-shoring jobs. Thus unions RAPE AMERICA. Business is in business to make money. If the unions are going to steal it, business will close up shop and leave.
Back then I thought that was AWESOME! Now that I know better I think it's AWFUL! Unions RAPE business. And business responds by off-shoring jobs. Thus unions RAPE AMERICA. Business is in business to make money. If the unions are going to steal it, business will close up shop and leave.
^^^THIS^^^
