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Want to know why intelligent CITIZENS dont like cops?

Yeah, commanded to stop by a street thug waving a gun around.Its not like he tried to run over uniformed officers.they were dressed and acting like thugs,he didnt attempt to run over anyone, he was trying to get away from what he thought were street thugs carjacking him.and the cop that supposedly got hurt, funny how he managed to RUN three blocks to where the victim died.and Ayres was not the first person that Oxner has shot, he has a habit of stepping in front of vehicles so he has an excuse to shoot the driver. Why didnt these retards simply have a uniformed officer in marked car make a traffic stop????tell me that, one of whom was too lazy to complete all his required training and had another cop falsify the paperwork after the shooting.and they all got promoted. except for the guy that got caught falsifying the paperwork.what would you think of police who body slam someone in handcufffs, twice, then do a fistbump?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArhUgfkqAkswanna tell us why this scumbag is not in jail?http://www.thenewsobserver.com/articles/2008/09/05/news/news01.txtmust be nice to be able to get drunk, in uniform drive your marked patrol car 50 miles away, attempt to kidnap a woman, then get away scot free.do you think the LA cops that shot 140 times at the newspaper delivery women were "just doing their job"?or do you think they deserve some kind of punishment?because so far, nothing has happened to them, other than a paid vacationheres an example of the fine officers in my hometown:2 deputies do a drive by shooting, then give the gun they used to their boss, who helped them hide it.http://atlantaunfiltered.com/2009/10/18/towns-county-sheriff-rudy-eller-5-years-in-prison/see, us mere peasant civilian welders and truck drivers see cops getting away scot free with doing things that if we did them we would spend years in prison for. thats what breeds the contempt .
There are incidents that are unexceptable, and your average(read vast majority) of LEO do not condone that behavior.But we also don't condone the people we deal with each day, knowing that because we follow the rules most of them won't get caught today. Also heinous people get away with crimes everyday, but yet we don't hate every pro football player, or music teacher we come into contact with. Most of the time justice is served, other times it is not. One case does not prove the norm, and anyone that uses this kind reasoning has problems that will not be addresed properly on an Internet forum.LEOs are made of human beings, with the same weaknesses of every other person. If an LEO has no emotion and enforces laws without compassion he is called a robot. If he gets overly emotional and takes out the aggression brought on by what he has witnessed he is a thug with a propensity for violence. Somewhere in the middle is what most people look for in their LEO, and believe it or not that is what the vast majority of us strive for in our daily lives. Then again some people will hate any authority figure until they mature, some never do.
 
How is stuff like in these videos not going through your mind when the "emergency" lights go on?

I guess because I know I am going to be polite courteous and forthright with the officer and do everything I can to make sure he is able to do his job with as much ease as possible.
 
The point has been made! ALL COPS ARENT BAD! Youre gonna have people that love the gov... and the ones that hate it. either way this thread is :deadhorse:. The most valuable info you could ever know is how to protect yourself in a situation such as the ones posted!
 
There are incidents that are unexceptable, and your average(read vast majority) of LEO do not condone that behavior.But we also don't condone the people we deal with each day, knowing that because we follow the rules most of them won't get caught today. Also heinous people get away with crimes everyday, but yet we don't hate every pro football player, or music teacher we come into contact with. Most of the time justice is served, other times it is not. One case does not prove the norm, and anyone that uses this kind reasoning has problems that will not be addresed properly on an Internet forum.LEOs are made of human beings, with the same weaknesses of every other person. If an LEO has no emotion and enforces laws without compassion he is called a robot. If he gets overly emotional and takes out the aggression brought on by what he has witnessed he is a thug with a propensity for violence. Somewhere in the middle is what most people look for in their LEO, and believe it or not that is what the vast majority of us strive for in our daily lives. Then again some people will hate any authority figure until they mature, some never do.



I dont hate LEOs,

I hate the fact that they can break any law and do anything they want and get away with it by the simple fact that they wear a badge.

thats not right.

the officers in these unaccaptable incidents have suffered zero consequences for their actions, some even got promoted.

Im terrified of cops, you piss em off , they beat you or kill you with zero worries.
as illustrated in this video compilation
http://lewrockwell.com/orig12/gibson-g5.1.1.html


its not fair to lump em all in one category, but how am I supposed to know who is officer friendly and who is all 'roided up and looking to beat someone?
How do I know Im not gonna be the next Jonathan Ayres?
blown away by a trigger happy cowboy looking for any excuse he can find to blow someone away,and who gets a promotion before Im even in the cemetery ??

I cant, so I have to assume they all could be like the ones that put 140 bullet holes in a newspaper deliver car because they were trigger happy scaredy cats.

I cant, so if I get stopped I start the video , roll the windows down, make sure they can see my hands and tell them which pocket Im going to be reaching into for my DL, I keep my answers as short as possible, and try to be as un-rememberable as possible, he will have to get his commendation/promotion for blowing someone else away, not me.

cops are only afraid of 2 things, cameras and lawyers.

wonder why they are terrified of cameras?
and beat up and arrest people who cant be intimidated into turning them off?

youve seen the vids of the cops pepper spraying the protesters sitting on the sidewalk.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AdDLhPwpp4
If I walked up to you and pepper sprayed you, Id get arrested. yet the cop that did that suffered no consequenses.

youve seen the vid of the cop knocking the guy off his bicycle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6tcvGOB7Gc

youve seen the vid of the cop pulling a gun on Matt Graber
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNcDGqzAB30

then kicking in the door to his house and charging him with 4 felonys.

we're supposed to respect that kind of behavior??
you gotta be kidding!

we see these vids everyday, and we are supposed to respect cops?
we're terrified of em, but respect? no way. aint happening.
then LYING about it in his report.


I testified in federal court against the Ga State Patrol, back in the 80s when the Villi Rica Post kicked Jennings Towing off the rotation list to make room for their buddies.
sat right there and watched troopers tell bald faced lies so their buddies could make more $$

Ive even seen cops withhold exculpatory evidence in a murder trial.
cant think of anything much worse than that.


the whole problem is not what they do, they are just people, I think everyone understands that people dont use good judgement sometimes, and other times you have to make split second judments.

The problem is that nothing, NOTHING ever happens to these officers.
they have zero consequences, to any of their actions, and they know it.

They know they can do anything they wish, beat up anyone, shoot anyone, lie in court, whatever, and nothing will ever happen to them.

That is wrong. Just wrong.
If cops would work to remove the cops that do these kinds of things from their departments, I could respect em, but instead, in almost every case that hits the news, they cover up for the bad cops.
 
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The point has been made! ALL COPS ARENT BAD! Youre gonna have people that love the gov... and the ones that hate it. either way this thread is :deadhorse:. The most valuable info you could ever know is how to protect yourself in a situation such as the ones posted!

Your generalization is wrong.
Only two choices - love or hate "the government"? There are way more choices and selections than that.
Now, you could say:
There are two types of people in the world:
1. Those that believe there are two types of people in the world, and
2. Those that don't believe there are two types of people in the world..............
Anyway, we agree about one thing:
:deadhorse:
 
I dont hate LEOs,

I hate the fact that they can break any law and do anything they want and get away with it by the simple fact that they wear a badge.

thats not right.

the officers in these unaccaptable incidents have suffered zero consequences for their actions, some even got promoted.

Im terrified of cops, you piss em off , they beat you or kill you with zero worries.
as illustrated in this video compilation
http://lewrockwell.com/orig12/gibson-g5.1.1.html


its not fair to lump em all in one category, but how am I supposed to know who is officer friendly and who is all 'roided up and looking to beat someone?
How do I know Im not gonna be the next Jonathan Ayres?
blown away by a trigger happy cowboy looking for any excuse he can find to blow someone away,and who gets a promotion before Im even in the cemetery ??

I cant, so I have to assume they all could be like the ones that put 140 bullet holes in a newspaper deliver car because they were trigger happy scaredy cats.

I cant, so if I get stopped I start the video , roll the windows down, make sure they can see my hands and tell them which pocket Im going to be reaching into for my DL, he will have to get his commendation/promotion for blowing someone else away, not me.

cops are only afraid of 2 things, cameras and lawyers.

wonder why they are terrified of cameras?
and beat up and arrest people who cant be intimidated into turning them off?

youve seen the vids of the cops pepper spraying the protesters sitting on the sidewalk.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AdDLhPwpp4
If I walked up to you and pepper sprayed you, Id get arrested. yet the cop that did that suffered no consequenses.

youve seen the vid of the cop knocking the guy off his bicycle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6tcvGOB7Gc

youve seen the vid of the cop pulling a gun on Matt Graber
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNcDGqzAB30

then kicking in the door to his house and charging him with 4 felonys.

we're supposed to respect that kind of behavior??
you gotta be kidding!

we see these vids everyday, and we are supposed to respect cops?
we're terrified of em, but respect? no way. aint happening.
then LYING about it in his report.


I testified in federal court against the Ga State Patrol, back in the 80s when the Villi Rica Post kicked Jennings Towing off the rotation list to make room for their buddies.
sat right there and watched troopers tell bald faced lies so their buddies could make more $$

Ive even seen cops withhold exculpatory evidence in a murder trial.
cant think of anything much worse than that.

Wow, so many sweeping generalizations and contradictions in one post ...... Amazing
 
Got tired of being underpaid and unappreciated by people like you. No wasn't fired but there's still that correspondence welding class I could take
you should look into it.I mean... you wont get to treat people like **** on a daily basis and think youre a super hero but the pay is nice + benefits and 90% of the population wont talk **** about you when you walk off! Suspended is basically like being fired tho, just with an included tube of ky. :pound:
 
Correct... I don't get where some people think that it's OK to break the law because someone is breaking the law? So by your logic it should be OK to beat the crap out of the cops because they are breaking the law. Forget about the fact that we've created all these "nanny state" laws that especially target the poor and middle class...

Well now....Rodney King was a saint and the poor guy was doing nothing wrong. I guess it might be different if he resisted arrest, led the cops on a high speed chase across Los Angeles and then when he stopped, resisted even more. If he took 2 shots with a taser and got back up or refused to lay flat like he was instructed to do then I guess the police could have determined him a threat and used whatever force was necessary to subdue him. But, since poor ole Rodney wasn't doing anything wrong the police should have just let him be. :rolleyes:

They were probably just harassing him when they caught him with a transvestite hooker and when they arrested him for domestic violence also. Those darn cops, they just can't leave poor ole Rodney alone.
 
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