This was from my testing @ 50 yards. This was the 3 best of the 7 I tried. I would do a 10 shot group and clean really well and then do another 10 shot. The last of the day was the CCI and it was a 20 round group. So, far the rifle I throwed together with a few parts laying around might work out nice... Now... if we can put those dots on the steel I might have a chance.