What's a good caliber for Bison?

[gh1950]

BTW, if you take a deep dive into the fine print, you have to drag the carcass out with no mechanical help, you don't get to keep the meat, and the animals are really "beefalo"

 

[Barbwire]

22LR. shot placement!

A guy on here a couple of months ago said it was about shot placement and said that he killed a big bull elk at 600 yds with a .22short in a pistol.

 

[gh1950]

Where'd you see that?

There is a whole page long .pdf on acceptable rifles, it's part of the application package.

.30 cal or larger, bottle necked cartridge, no lead bullets, no solids, have to be expanding non-lead, designated list of commercial loads and acceptable handloads, anything not on the list is special permission, (what they don't say is "good luck finding these")

 

[gh1950]

I will just tell them it's custom cast non lead alloy.

If it's not on their list of approved bullets, it has to be submitted in advance and get a waiver.

Also, have to put 3 out of 5 with the load you specify into 4" circle at 100 yards.

 

[Rabbit2047]

BTW, if you take a deep dive into the fine print, you have to drag the carcass out with no mechanical help, you don't get to keep the meat, and the animals are really "beefalo"

Who the **** is physically able to drag a bison out or a wilderness area by hand?

I thought they wanted to cull the heard. Everything they are stipulating makes it seems like they have no real clue about population management.

 

[alleycat]

 

[gh1950]

Who the **** is physically able to drag a bison out or a wilderness area by hand?

I thought they wanted to cull the heard. Everything they are stipulating makes it seems like they have no real clue about population management.

You have to be able to lift 100lbs, they don't expressly state it, but apparently you can quarter it and bring it out, because at the end, the division of meat is by "cuts".

 

[rockyfatcat]

The National Park Service (NPS) is looking for volunteers to assist in killing hundreds of bison on the North Rim of Arizona's Grand Canyon National Park.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/national-park-service-volunteers-kill-bison-grand-canyon

For this bison removal project, only rifles chambered for bottlenecked cartridges with a bullet caliber of .30cal or larger, combined with a non-lead bullet of 165 grains or heavier .

Rifle and bullet combos that deliver at least 2500 foot-pounds of energy at the muzzle will generally be considered appropriate, but energy delivery at terminal range will also be considered.

 

[Rabbit2047]

Yup... I am out.... not even gonna apply. This is ridiculous

 

[rockyfatcat]

You have to be able to lift 100lbs, they don't expressly state it, but apparently you can quarter it and bring it out, because at the end, the division of meat is by "cuts".

How much meat will I be able to keep? Will I be able to keep the head or hide?
Grand Canyon National Park will transfer bison carcasses to Arizona Game and Fish Department at the end of each volunteer/ operation period. Arizona Game and Fish Department may distribute what they choose to skilled volunteers on the last day of their service. Skilled volunteers may share with Support Volunteers. Carcass distribution will not exceed one bison per volunteer team. Any parts not desired by volunteers will be transferred to the Tribal governments of GCNP’s 11 traditionally associated tribes.

No guarantee that the carcass portioin you get is in any way related to your activities