Kel Tec PF9 and a Smith Sigma in .380, both were crap!
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FIL was preparing to shoot a 25 ACP at a piece of 1/4" plywood and I said, "I wouldn't do that." He did. One shot. Bullet bounced back and hit him in the head at the front temple. LOL, couldn't tell he'd been struck. Hard head.Raven Arms .25, was a jam-o-matic, inaccurate at any distance, and less stopping power than a .22, if you did manage to hit something with it.