10mm is pointless

[Hayata]

Sonny carried a Bren 10 in Miami Vice. 10mm is a great round. When you pull the trigger the gun comes back in your hand with au-thor-i-tay. Much like a .45 but sharper. I can see why it was dumbed-down to the .40cal.

Still wouldn't want to be shot with ANY bullet. I knew a fellow who was shot just above the eye near the nose with a .25cal. He's alive and still carries the souvenir with him under the skin.

 

[sparked1]

The way I see it, .45 is ideal. Controllable and powerful, but the guns are heavy for concealed carry and have limited capacity of 6-8 rounds. For concealed carry, 9mm and .40 just work better for me.

I wouldn't mind adding a lightweight 1911 to the carry rotation though.

 

[BIGLEW]

I was sitting around with some friends one night and we were talking about my XDm 9 which was on my hip. We were talking about how I, right then, had 20 rounds at my disposal. Then, ofcourse, an idiot said "you need 20 rounds, 9mm don't have any stopping power." I then decided to challange him. I said told him that we could go outside and stand 20 feet apart. I would give him a bat, a knife, a large pipe, whatever and he could rush me. I would draw, and shoot him until he was unable to continue. He said no, to which I told him that I guess 9mm has pretty good stopping power since he did not even want to get out of his chair.

 

[chucklenut]

10 mm is sick. better than .40 in my opinion (aside from availability and pricing, but if thats your concern get a 9mm)

 

[Laxguy59]

This is the way I see it.


With a 9mm I can put two rounds center mass, in less than a second with both rounds touching. An effective double tap
With a 45acp I can put two rounds center mass, in less than a second with 4-6 inches of spread. An effective double tap, however not as good as a 9mm. My time is considerably slower between shots as well.
With 40, 10mm and 357sig, I can put one round center mass in less than a second, with the second round of the double tap not even on the target. Not a safe or effective double tap.

In a defensive situation, more than likely I am going to shoot until the threat is down. 9mm ensures me that my rounds will all hit target, and not the little old lady behind and to the left of the target.


That said, I grew up in New Mexico and I LOVE predator hunting. Yotes, bobcat, mountain lion and bear were the main things I hunted. I carried a Glock 20 with me everytime I went into the woods for the stopping power and capacity it offered me against a bear.

No offense NW, but I hardly tell a difference with my .357sigs (33, 31)then with any 9(17) or .40(22) glock, my double taps hit the chest at numerous and reasonably lengthy distances with all 3, the only one I have trouble with is .45(XD), not sure why but I get shots off slower with those, probably because I rarely shoot 45 but have put well over 1k rounds downrange from .357's and 40's. If you can handle it effectively, go big, if not go the most you can handle, no reason to sell yourself short in size or velocity unless it gives you some sort of advantage to downsize.

 

[Laufen]

I can scarcely think of any round that I would call pointless...maybe the .25acp. If the FBI had stayed with the full power 10mm, and if it weren't too much to handle for their agents, most service pistols today just might be chambered in 10mm. The civilian market tends to follow what is popular in l.e. circles, why do you think the downloaded 10mm caught on. The 45acp, and 9mm, are obviously both popular in law enforcement and the military. It could be argued that the 9x23 winchester, 38 super, .357sig, even the 400 corbon are all superior ballistically to the old standbys. For now though, they are relegated to the back burner as boutique rounds simply because they are not popular among groups that buy for discounts and shootability among and extraordinary range of sizes and shapes of officers.

 

[captdave77]

Why would you call any round pointless? I don't have a 10mm but I'm not opposed to it.

I would not call anyone's baby ugly. If it works for you, shoot it.

 

[DownSouthMach]

Why would you call any round pointless? I don't have a 10mm but I'm not opposed to it.

I would not call anyone's baby ugly. If it works for you, shoot it.

 

[captdave77]

 

[ARCman47]

x2!!!!!!!