22 ARC vs. 6 ARC vs. 6.5 Grendel vs. 6.8 SPC ll

[greg vess]

Imagine being so insecure in your masculinity that you can't even stand shooting new rifle cartridges because it causes you to doubt your manhood.

Eewww Burn! LOL

 

[wolfmanrogers]

The 6.8 and she 6.5 Grendel leave the muzzle at the same velocity with similar bullet weights. It's only after 400 the Grendel starts to show its ballistic advantages but I wouldn't push one that far when deer hunting anyway. Not even close that distance. My Interest is for defensive purposes or sane deer shots. If I am going to be in a situation to shoot that far I would bring a suitable caliber.

Speaking of long shots, one of the four brothers I grew up with bought a Bergara 6.5 PRC. He also bought a Trijicon scope. He called Kenton industries and had them make a custom turret so all he had to do is laser it and dial in the yardage. Him and his brother was out on the farm and saw the deer of in the distance. It ranged out at 680 yards. He dialed it in on the scope and killed that joker right there. His brother said it didn't move 5 feet and dropped. Its amazing how they make those turrets so precise like that. He has even shot soda cans further than that. That Bergara and Trijicon match is a hell of a combo. Speaks loads about the Bergara Premier rifle.

The downside is, if he goes to Montana the turret likely won't work. Having specific dope for the load, atmospherics of the day, etc and dialing or holding over will ALWAYS be more accurate. Ballistic turrets are a close guess.

 

[CTS Tactical]

The 6.8 and she 6.5 Grendel leave the muzzle at the same velocity with similar bullet weights. It's only after 400 the Grendel starts to show its ballistic advantages but I wouldn't push one that far when deer hunting anyway. Not even close that distance. My Interest is for defensive purposes or sane deer shots. If I am going to be in a situation to shoot that far I would bring a suitable caliber.

Speaking of long shots, one of the four brothers I grew up with bought a Bergara 6.5 PRC. He also bought a Trijicon scope. He called Kenton industries and had them make a custom turret so all he had to do is laser it and dial in the yardage. Him and his brother was out on the farm and saw the deer of in the distance. It ranged out at 680 yards. He dialed it in on the scope and killed that joker right there. His brother said it didn't move 5 feet and dropped. Its amazing how they make those turrets so precise like that. He has even shot soda cans further than that. That Bergara and Trijicon match is a hell of a combo. Speaks loads about the Bergara Premier rifle.

The thing a lot of people miss, and was pointed out in the video is that the grendel needs a 20" barrel to get the velocity you can get from a 16" barrel in the 6.8 SPC.

 

[greg vess]

The thing a lot of people miss, and was pointed out in the video is that the grendel needs a 20" barrel to get the velocity you can get from a 16" barrel in the 6.8 SPC.

That's the great thing about the 6.8 SPC. It doesn't drop in velocity a whole lot when you lose a few inches off the barrel length like those others do. It still alludes on how they managed to do that. I mean I know that was part of the intended goal but it just seems crazy how others lose so much and the 6.8 SPC is hardly affected by it. Weird!

 

[CTS Tactical]

That's the great thing about the 6.8 SPC. It doesn't drop in velocity a whole lot when you lose a few inches off the barrel length like those others do. It still alludes on how they managed to do that. I mean I know that was part of the intended goal but it just seems crazy how others lose so much and the 6.8 SPC is hardly affected by it. Weird!

It's PFM.

 

[greg vess]

I watched a show on the Outdoor Channel about hunting hogs from helicopters. They showed in the storage shop pallets of 55 gr. FMJ ammo. The owner of the hunting fairly said that the 5.56 had to be at least 16 inches in barrel length. He said they tested all different lengths under 16 and they just would not kill the hog right away without a second or third shot. Anything 16 and above just dropped them in their tracks. Just goes to show you how most calibers suffer massively when the barrels are shortened.

 

[CTS Tactical]

I watched a show on the Outdoor Channel about hunting hogs from helicopters. They showed in the storage shop pallets of 55 gr. FMJ ammo. The owner of the hunting fairly said that the 5.56 had to be at least 16 inches in barrel length. He said they tested all different lengths under 16 and they just would not kill the hog right away without a second or third shot. Anything 16 and above just dropped them in their tracks. Just goes to show you how most calibers suffer massively when the barrels are shortened.

My 6.8 is 12.5" and suppressed.

 

[wolfmanrogers]

I watched a show on the Outdoor Channel about hunting hogs from helicopters. They showed in the storage shop pallets of 55 gr. FMJ ammo. The owner of the hunting fairly said that the 5.56 had to be at least 16 inches in barrel length. He said they tested all different lengths under 16 and they just would not kill the hog right away without a second or third shot. Anything 16 and above just dropped them in their tracks. Just goes to show you how most calibers suffer massively when the barrels are shortened.

If they are truly concerned about ethical kills and performance, they shouldn't be using 55gr. fmjs.

 

[Granite3]

Lots of the special detachments are using the 6 ARC now.

Talked to some guys testing it at Hornady's place in Idaho.....

 

[greg vess]

If they are truly concerned about ethical kills and performance, they shouldn't be using 55gr. fmjs.

The film of hunts they showed of the kills the hogs took a nose dive after impact. A second or third shot was not needed. The owner of the hunt club said that the velocity was crucial and that the ammo he used was more that enough given the velocity of that round. I guess you had to watch it to see the hits. It was quick and decisive.