Can you go to the capitol tomorrow? If not please call and email.

[mountainpass]

http://www.georgiacarry.org/cms/2015/02/18/gco-opposes-hb186/

GCO Opposes HB186
We need all members and friends who are pro gun to contact members of the House Public Safety and Homeland Security Committee NOW!

GeorgiaCarry.Org strongly opposes HB186!!! HB186 (here) – Crimes and offenses; carrying weapons within certain school safety zones and at school functions; change provisions

HB186 is sponsored by Representative Ed Seltzer, (R-35) and cosigned by Representative Micah Gravely, (R-67) and Representative Emory Dunahoo, (R30).

This bill does several things that contribute to gun control legislation and will strip your right to carry on campus.

As you are aware, HB826 last year decriminalized campus carry and was signed into law one day prior to HB60. The Governor and General Assembly believe that signing the bills in that order means that HB60 overrode the school carry provision allowed in HB826. That would be true if the bills were in conflict and the bills were irreconcilable. GCO not only believes these bills were not in conflict, but have been told so by judges that they are not in conflict.

We filed lawsuits in several counties that were dismissed because school boards have sovereign immunity and cannot be sued. The only judge to comment on the real issue of our case (Fulton County) agreed with us on the merits but dismissed the case on the sovereign immunity issue. Ruling is here – page 11 of 14, Balancing the Equities. We have been told that our lawsuit should be aimed at the General Assembly Code Revision Committee for not properly allowing the campus carry portion to be put in the Official Code of GA Annotated. We have filed suit against the Governor and the Code Revision Committee for that very reason.

HB186 would change the very portion of the statute that would make our lawsuit moot which would mean that we would have no legal ground to stand on as the action of the General Assembly would change the statute to prohibit what they passed last year.
And, HB186 would also criminalizes carrying in a private passenger motor vehicle carrying school children to or from school activities by a school employee. That not only means a teacher driving a student to an extra curricular (mock trial competition, band event, forensics or even athletics — though those usually involve buses), it means any school employee driving his or her child/children to school.

This bill is currently in the House Public Safety and Homeland Security Committee and we expect a hearing to happen very soon. If your representative is a member of this committee, please contact him or her and politely but firmly let him or her know you are against this bill. If your representative is not on this committee, please contact them in the same manner as well.


The committee members and office phone numbers.

Alan Powell Chairman (404) 463-3793
Darlene K. Taylor Vice Chairman (404) 656-0178
Alex Atwood Secretary (404) 656-0152
Heath Clark Member (404) 656-0109
Kevin Cooke Member (404) 656-0109
Gloria Fraizer Member (404) 656-0265
Mike Glanton Member (404) 657-1803
Micah Gravely Member (404) 656-0325
Gerald E. Greene Member (404) 656-0202
Dustin Hightower Member (404) 657-1803
Bill Hitchens Member (404) 656-0178
Scott Holcomb Member (404) 656-6372
Mack Jackson Member (404) 656-0314
Rick Jasperse Member (404) 656-0188
Eddie Lumsden Member (404) 656-0325
Jesse Patrea Member (404) 656-0109
Keisha Waites Member (404) 656- 0220
Committee Members email addresses
Alan Powell Chairman alanpowell23@hotmail.com
Darlene K. Taylor Vice Chairman darlene.taylor@house.ga.gov
Alex Atwood Secretary alex.atwood@house.ga.gov
Heath Clark Member heath.clark@house.ga.gov
Kevin Cooke Member kevin.cooke@house.ga.gov
Gloria Fraizer Member frazier26@comcast.net
Mike Glanton Member mike.glanton@house.ga.gov
Micah Gravely Member micah.gravley@house.ga.gov
Gerald E. Greene Member gerald.greene@house.ga.gov
Dustin Hightower Member dustin.hightower@house.ga.gov
Bill Hitchens Member bill.hitchens@house.ga.gov
Scott Holcomb Member scott.holcomb@house.ga.gov
Mack Jackson Member mack.jackson@house.ga.gov
Rick Jasperse Member rick.jasperse@house.ga.gov
Eddie Lumsden Member eddie.lumsden@house.ga.gov
Jesse Patrea Member jesse.petrea@house.ga.gov
Keisha Waites Member keisha.waites@house.ga.gov
Please contact the members listed above immediately!

 

[alnen]

Thanks for posting this mountainpass.

There are many friends to the second amendment in this committee. There are a few enemies. Send them all your voice of opposition to this bill and it will not fall on deaf ears!

 

[woodstock]

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[RamRoddoc]

It's really hard for me to comprehend that Ed Seltzer a former U.S. Army Ranger would sponsor any bill to criminalize vetted permit carry holders or law abiding teachers.

At a time when the far majority of states are restoring rights, this bill works hard to separate rights and criminalize those who were never a threat...... And honestly are a resource to aid and enhance public safety.

Acworth needs to sound off!
ed.setzler@house.ga.gov
401 State Capitol

• Atlanta, GA 30334

• 404.656.7857 - Office

• 1555 Boxwood Trace

• Acworth, GA 30102

• 404.630.8452 - Office

Purdue Homeland Security Institute:

As Dr. Dietz characterizes it, the more friendly guns in a firefight is a good thing. Purdue Homeland Security Institute: http://www.purdue.edu/discoverypark/phsi/about/staff.php Here is an interview:

 

[hikingthehills]

It's really hard for me to comprehend that Ed Seltzer a former U.S. Army Ranger would sponsor any bill to criminalize vetted permit carry holders or law abiding teachers.

At a time when the far majority of states are restoring rights, this bill works hard to separate rights and criminalize those who were never a threat...... And honestly are a resource to aid and enhance public safety.


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Acworth needs to sound off!
ed.setzler@house.ga.gov
401 State Capitol

• Atlanta, GA 30334

• 404.656.7857 - Office

• 1555 Boxwood Trace

• Acworth, GA 30102

• 404.630.8452 - Office

Purdue Homeland Security Institute:

Thank you for the heads up. Sound off is what I'll do!

 

[RamRoddoc]

Contact the other sponsors too, give them a word or two on this "feel good" legislation that only serves anti-rights, anti-gun groups, pandering politicians, criminals and the criminally insane....

Douglasville give a shout out as well as all of Georgia.

micah.gravley@house.ga.gov

• 94 Bridge Place

• Douglasville, GA 30134

• 612-F Coverdell Legislative Office Bldg.

• Atlanta, GA 30334

• 404.656.0325 - Office

Gainesville and Georgia give a shout out!

emory.dunahoo@house.ga.gov

• 401-D Coverdell Legislative Office Building

• Atlanta, GA 30334

• 404.656.0152 - Office

• 4720 Walnut Lane

• Gainesville, GA 30507

Gravley's address was in Mountain Pass/OP's list of contacts. I just finished messaging all the contacts and the sponsors of HB 189.

In a time when the futility of "Gun Free Zones" is blatantly apparent it questions why one would double down on failure, ignore the honest impact of lawful carry, the disregard of our bill of rights and scrutinizes the motives of such poor or lack of sincere judgment.

One can only speculate.........

 

[RamRoddoc]

Thank you for the heads up. Sound off is what I'll do!

Thank you hikingthehills,

One other ODT reply, 131 viewers and with GCO's assistance HB 186 is now deemed a good gun bill! Thanks for everyone who cared enough to take 15-20 minutes or more to contact all parties concerned to make this happen. Every little bit helps and complacency is the evil that will be our own undoing. Be proactive, not reactive in preventing the precedent that will erode our rights.

We must let them know when they strip and revoke rights it does not set well with the citizens nor the bill of rights.

GCO Now Supports HB186:
February 20th, 2015
"We want to thank all members who contacted the House Public Safety and Homeland Security Committee about HB186. After some late night negotiations Representative (RANGER) Ed Setzler and others made the necessary changes to HB186 that allows GeorgiaCarry.Org to support HB186. HB186 has now been assigned to the House Public Safety and Homeland Security Subcommittee “A”, chaired by Representative Rick Jasperse. We will keep you informed of any future movements and/or changes should any be added to the bill as well as the date and time of the next hearing. When that hearing is held, that will be the time for anyone to speak for or against the bill. If the bill is recommended do pass by the Subcommittee, you cannot be assured that anyone will be allowed to speak for or against the bill in the full committee hearing.

Chairman Alan Powell requested we tell all our members thank you for reminding them that second amendment advocacy groups are alive and well. He was very pleased to receive your kind emails reminding him of your passionate belief in the second amendment. Many of you responded and did so in true GCO form and impressed the members of the committee.

We want to make sure you know and understand that Representatives Ed Setzler, (R-35), Micah Gravely, (R-67) and Emory Dunahoo, (R-30), the bill sponsors and most of the members of the House Public Safety and Homeland Security Committee are true second amendment supporters and meant no harm to the second amendment by offering this bill. All these men are passionate second amendment supporters that can be counted on to support your rights to keep and bear arms.

One of the things that we know about this bill was that it was taken from last year’s HB826. Much of it was copied and the reason for both bills (HB826 and HB186) was/is to put common sense into the zero tolerance policy and allow schools more leeway when a student is found to accidentally be in possession of a knife longer than 2″ or other “now defined weapon” and not force the schools to call law enforcement and have the student arrested on a felony charge. Everyone believes that to be wrong and the elimination of zero tolerance per se is a valid and noble undertaking.

However, when one copies anything there are many things that can go amiss. One such example is that of HB186 in its original form. What was originally in this bill was also in HB826 but did not receive any attention because in the exemptions a valid GWL holder was exempted and did not put undue burden on the lawful firearm carrier. With that provision removed, it became a criminal action to everyone with or without a valid GWL and therefore had to be stopped. This is where the members of GCO came into the picture and did a fine job of accomplishing that task.

For those who contacted their representatives, now would be a good time to follow up with a thank you note for listening to our objections and not allowing our right to keep and bear arms to be further infringed.

Again, thank each of you for contacting your representatives and helping get this bill turned around."


Not just sounding off but a follow up note, call or e-mail. Let them know when they did right too as it is just as important.

http://www.georgiacarry.org/

 

[hikingthehills]

It's funny just last week I was told on here by a member that it does no good contacting politicians. From what I see it does do good they need to to be reminded how easily their jobs can be lost by making stupid decisions that affect their constituents.

 

[RamRoddoc]

It's funny just last week I was told on here by a member that it does no good contacting politicians. From what I see it does do good they need to to be reminded how easily their jobs can be lost by making stupid decisions that affect their constituents.

I can't count how many defeatist, I got mine folks right after Sandy Hook said our rights are done.... I argued that if you sit on your ass and do nothing but bitch on a gun forum they might just as well be.

However, as a collective voice we have power and the politicians understand the tip of the iceberg analogy.

We have some politicians who honestly want to honor their oath of office. We also have those who ignore the oath and pander to prohibition groups or other special interest groups (education board) for financial support, political aid or both. The two things both groups of politicians understand is power; votes and money create it and without it they are dead in the water.

Our great American Henry Ford is cited:

"Whether you think that you can, or that you can't, you are usually right."- Henry Ford (1863-1947)